Gene Chizik Comments Rumor Thread

The worst thing is the school kids complaining to the coaches kids. The sniping in the schools for Callahan and Kevin Cosgrove kids became pretty bad. No way should this stuff be a part of the school kids scene. If it happens in the Ames school system, it should be fixed/rectified now.
 
Just because someone demands a retraction - it does not mean he'll get it.

It's unbelievable to me how much "journalists," including those at our very own Ames Trib, depend on message boards for tips and content. I can't believe the question was publicly asked of him...
 
If this rumor is true, do you think that Mr. Pollard oversold things at ISU? He is a great marketer/salesman.

He didn't oversell anything. There are tons of qualified coaches that would jump at the chance to revitalize a fan base that despite TERRIBLE on field performance still turns out 50k a game. Pollard is not the one who went to the good ol boys club to hire unqualified coordinators.

If this story is true, that is the part that really gets to me. Acting like it is ISU's fault that he isn't having success, when the truth is the school, AD, and the fans have given him everything he needs to perform. That is, of course, IF the rumors are true. And if they are true, his contract should be voided and he should be run out of town.
 
From a public relations perspective, if it is spreading and not dieing out, and if the radio comments do exist, then it would be better to take control of the situation.

The trick is making the trigger decision as to is it building or fading out.

If it is building there are two good options:
1. If he never said it C, would need to adamantly deny it and set the stage to end the discussion.

2, If there is any truth, basically come out and say as such and apologize, Or not even that, just say he is human. How many people have taken a job and afterwords said wow I am not sure what I did. In one sense it could make him seem a stronger Clone representative.

If it is building, silence will only make it worse.

Again, the tricky part is making the initial directional call, and that is the point we are probably in, or past.
 
The worst thing is the school kids complaining to the coaches kids. The sniping in the schools for Callahan and Kevin Cosgrove kids became pretty bad. No way should this stuff be a part of the school kids scene. If it happens in the Ames school system, it should be fixed/rectified now.

Gene's kids go to Gilbert. BTW, how would you "punish" an 8 year-old kid from saying "Iowa State sucks" to another kid?
 
I got a copy of the supposed conversation that is in the Lounge at HR.

I don't think I'm going to post it. My friend who sent it to me doesn't want his user name used. He said the the original poster got it from another Rivals board (maybe OSU or TX).
 
If it is rivals, all you probably have the original Baylor board post, which means we are now citing the rumor source as fact.
 
From a public relations perspective, if it is spreading and not dieing out, and if the radio comments do exist, then it would be better to take control of the situation.

The trick is making the trigger decision as to is it building or fading out.

If it is building there are two good options:
1. If he never said it C, would need to adamantly deny it and set the stage to end the discussion.

2, If there is any truth, basically come out and say as such and apologize, Or not even that, just say he is human. How many people have taken a job and afterwords said wow I am not sure what I did. In one sense it could make him seem a stronger Clone representative.

If it is building, silence will only make it worse.

Again, the tricky part is making the initial directional call, and that is the point we are probably in, or past.

As they say, the coverup is sometimes worse than the crime. If Chizik comes out and adamantly denies it, but there was indeed something said to another coach, it would start a chain reaction that would likely lead to that other coach to come out and publicly defend his original leak of the information, if said conversation took place. That would be very bad.
 
As they say, the coverup is sometimes worse than the crime. If Chizik comes out and adamantly denies it, but there was indeed something said to another coach, it would start a chain reaction that would likely lead to that other coach to come out and publicly defend his original leak of the information, if said conversation took place. That would be very bad.

So, if radio hosts and OSU asst. coaches start mysteriously disappearing...we should worry?
 
I got a copy of the supposed conversation that is in the Lounge at HR.

I don't think I'm going to post it. My friend who sent it to me doesn't want his user name used. He said the the original poster got it from another Rivals board (maybe OSU or TX).

So why even mention it? :skeptical:
 
So who doesn't complain about their job switches at some time? Gene will have a long time to climb back to 500 record for his coaching career and it will be forgotten just like 93 was for Dan.
 
So who doesn't complain about their job switches at some time? Gene will have a long time to climb back to 500 record for his coaching career and it will be forgotten just like 93 was for Dan.

Dan started in '95 - he coached here for 12 years. And no, I doubt that Gene will have as long as Dan did to get things going. It's a different college FB world now.
 
So why even mention it? :skeptical:

Here ya go. Just don't shoot the messenger!



Gene Chizik regrets taking ISU job (reportedly)

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I was listening to Galloway and Company this afternoon, and Brian Esteridge and Matt Mosley were talking college football. Esteridge, who is the play-by-play guy for TCU and has several friends in the Big 12, mentioned that he was told by his friend who coaches for Oklahoma State that Chizik regrets leaving UT for ISU. The report came up in the context of he and Mosley, who is a Baylor grad, talking about assistants who left for bigger money (Chizik, Ron Prince) and those who stayed behind and eventually got a better gig (Sean Payton, possibly Jason Garrett).

Anyway, this was not reported to anyone in the media, and Esteridge said a little bit afterwards that he regretted letting it slip, but the gist of it (I was driving) goes something like this:

Chizik reportedly told a coach at OSU (who remained unnamed) that he had a great job at UT, making $400,000 per year and really enjoyed his job and living in Austin. He left for ISU to take more money, said he couldn't get the thing turned around, and now his kids have to go to school and hear, "Your dad sucks," all day long. He said that if he could trade places with the Defensive Coordinator at UT, he would do it, "in a heartbeat."

Mosley questioned why anyone would say that while they were still employed by the school that they couldn't turn around, and that's when Esteridge sheepishly revealed that he had heard it from a coach and it wasn't public knowledge, until now. They both laughed and said that the hoped there wasn't anyone from Ames, Iowa listening.
 
The defensive coordinator at UT is about to go to Clemson, maybe thats what he meant... :wink:

This whole thing is stupid... Of course he hates losing and I don't think he realized just how bad of shape the program was in... But he will get it rolling...
 
Where is Fox News and Katie Couric when we need them. He still lives in a fine community for now and makes a million and runs the show and had his buddies and has hope to turn it around if he as he must be a positive guy. So he slipped up at a cocktail party. LE did that all the time.
 
Here ya go. Just don't shoot the messenger!



Gene Chizik regrets taking ISU job (reportedly)

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I was listening to Galloway and Company this afternoon, and Brian Esteridge and Matt Mosley were talking college football. Esteridge, who is the play-by-play guy for TCU and has several friends in the Big 12, mentioned that he was told by his friend who coaches for Oklahoma State that Chizik regrets leaving UT for ISU. The report came up in the context of he and Mosley, who is a Baylor grad, talking about assistants who left for bigger money (Chizik, Ron Prince) and those who stayed behind and eventually got a better gig (Sean Payton, possibly Jason Garrett).

Anyway, this was not reported to anyone in the media, and Esteridge said a little bit afterwards that he regretted letting it slip, but the gist of it (I was driving) goes something like this:

Chizik reportedly told a coach at OSU (who remained unnamed) that he had a great job at UT, making $400,000 per year and really enjoyed his job and living in Austin. He left for ISU to take more money, said he couldn't get the thing turned around, and now his kids have to go to school and hear, "Your dad sucks," all day long. He said that if he could trade places with the Defensive Coordinator at UT, he would do it, "in a heartbeat."

Mosley questioned why anyone would say that while they were still employed by the school that they couldn't turn around, and that's when Esteridge sheepishly revealed that he had heard it from a coach and it wasn't public knowledge, until now. They both laughed and said that the hoped there wasn't anyone from Ames, Iowa listening.

I am still on the side of who cares. Anyone who thought things were going to change around in 2 years was living in fantasy land. I am sure Chizik has had similar conversations with people he trusts as well as many on this message board. The beauty of technology these days.
 

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