Fred in Chicago
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Pretty sure he has 25 million reasons that makes the losing not feel so bad.
Agree. If Rose had somewhat rebounded from his injuries, Butler isn't a total a-hole about playing for Fred, and then they add Niko or a similar piece maybe things would have been different. As it is they have never had the talent firepower you need to compete since Fred has been there.
The Bulls need to fire Gar and Paxon. They have no clue as to what they are doing. Fred should come work under Jamie Pollard.
He knew he was heading into somewhat of a rebuild, but he misjudged the competence of GarPax.
They’re still years away, I’m rooting for him but I don’t know how he survives it. Hopefully another NBA team will take a chance on him.
They’re still years away, I’m rooting for him but I don’t know how he survives it. Hopefully another NBA team will take a chance on him.
I wanted Fred to succeed, but this has gone the way I and just about anyone else I have talked to predicted.
Correct me if wrong but you make it sound like that’s the thing he cares about the most. I just don’t buy it. Guys like him are very competitive and want to win more than anything else. So that $25M while nice, doesn’t make up for years of loosing. Also it’s not like he wasn’t set financially before Bulls job.
I really hope he gets one more year after this one and then they go from there. You get Lopez and Asik mostly off the books. Parker will either be an asset by that point with a good season or they’ll decline his option and free up that $20m. Lavine may not play defense (yet) but would still have value at $19.5m.
Lavine and Markkanen could be juicy on offense and they’d have a great cap situation. They could try to get Giannis to come down the road from Milwaukee or Anthony Davis to come home in the summer of 2020.
Now is definitely a better time to become the Bulls coach than when Fred did.
Lavine and Markkanen could be juicy on offense and they’d have a great cap situation. They could try to get Giannis to come down the road from Milwaukee or Anthony Davis to come home in the summer of 2020.
Now is definitely a better time to become the Bulls coach than when Fred did.
It's also BS that college is so much harder, I always laugh at that. Coaches may not enjoy recruiting but a 30ish game season is not harder than a 100ish game season. Assistants can help you recruit. They can't coach 50 road games a year for you. It's about winning, and sure the biggest jobs where winning matters the most pay the pay the most.
Also the Ames media is a pillow fight (especially for Fred) compared to Chicago sports media which is probably second only to Philly.
He freely picked a horrible situation. It sucks but I just don’t see them being better without a tanking type of rebuild. Coaches don’t survive those types of rebuilds.
I still don’t understand his reasons for leaving for this situation, but can only imagine that this shows how truly miserable he was at the college ranks and the current ‘shady’ college recruiting racket.
I still don’t understand his reasons for leaving for this situation, but can only imagine that this shows how truly miserable he was at the college ranks and the current ‘shady’ college recruiting racket.
Yeah, not liking recruiting is completely different than not liking the fact that your competitors recruit dirty.
We all knew when Fred signed with the Bulls that in all likelihood it wasn't going to end well. The owner and front office operate like it's still the Jordan era and a real turnaround in Chicago won't happen until that denial is flushed from the system.
Keep in mind this is the SECOND ISU coach the Bulls have hired in the post-Jordan era. The first one ended in abysmal failure, and this one is trending in that direction.
Keep in mind this is the SECOND ISU coach the Bulls have hired in the post-Jordan era. The first one ended in abysmal failure, and this one is trending in that direction.
I'll finish the last 2 yrs of his contract for half price. I can get fired in 2 yrs for that kind of money.
The money had to be a big part of it. With his health the way it was, taking a big payday assures that you can walk away any time you wanted to without any concern about money. He was making good money at ISU, but it wasn't ever retire any time without a drop in lifestyle type of money.
Perfect fit. He hates recruiting and won't have to do any. Assistants, shoe guys and bag men would do all of the heavy lifting.
I know I'm biased, but I think he's actually done a nice job with player development. See Portis, LaVine, Dunn