Fraschilla Sure Thinks Monte Has An NBA Future

Yeah, I've never heard anything from CW other than he expected Monte to return next year. That was on a podcast or two.
 
Not Niang, but there were plenty of people on here who expected Ejim and Kane to get drafted in the 1st round based on their play.

People couldn't figure out why Marble was getting drafted and our guys weren't.

They were even people on here that thought Kane would get playing time in the Spurs-Heat Final that year prior to the draft.
 
Not Niang, but there were plenty of people on here who expected Ejim and Kane to get drafted in the 1st round based on their play.

People couldn't figure out why Marble was getting drafted and our guys weren't.

There's really not that big a difference in being drafted in the last 5-10 picks and being one of the best players left on the board undrafted. You do want to be drafted even if late because it gets an NBA GM to put his ego into your fugure, but those latest picks rarely see the court.

I chuckle when Iowa fans want to compare programs or talent based on NBA success because they think Fran's players have done better in the NBA for getting drafted almost last twice. Compare Garrett, Babb and BDJ's minutes to Marble's and White's? Those ISU players have logged something like 12x more NBA minutes. Babb and Marble are nearly a wash, then Garret and now BDJ have logged many more minutes and White is basically in the same position as Ejim trying to make a team by excelling overseas/dleague.
 
Not true. Chris stated on a FawCast or one of his podcasts that all signs were pointing to Monte being back.

No, I think you are wrong. Early in the year in more than a few podcasts, CW was saying that he was hearing that Monte was gone. In fact, I think that him and Gray argued/discussed it.

Recently (right around the time when Monte was hurt and struggling a bit), CW was saying that he had heard Monte was more open to coming back.
 
Yeah, I've never heard anything from CW other than he expected Monte to return next year. That was on a podcast or two.

Part of NCAA fans being so uninformed about NBA is the college game announcers say all sorts of misleading things. Peter Jok is having a drastically improved season but I heard a college announcer getting excited about him talking about him leaving for the NBA draft. They fall in love with the players they cover over and over and hype them just like NCAA fans do.
 
didnt they change the rules that you can go to the combine now and workout for teams and still come back? I think

Not that Monte doesn't deserve the time to decide, but that would sure stink for someone like us to know if we can give out another scholarship to a transfer big, for example. I realize we're going for 2107 pg's now, but we still have to know our scholarship situation before we know if we can pull the trigger on an impact juco for example before we settle for what's leftover like last summer.
 
Not that Monte doesn't deserve the time to decide, but that would sure stink for someone like us to know if we can give out another scholarship to a transfer big, for example. I realize we're going for 2107 pg's now, but we still have to know our scholarship situation before we know if we can pull the trigger on an impact juco for example before we settle for what's leftover like last summer.

That's not how college basketball really works anymore, if you can get an impact guy, you get him and worry about where the scholarship will come from later.
 
I really think his chances to get into the 1st round hang entirely on how we do in the NCAA's. Big time opportunity to improve his stock. I'd say if we get past the Sweet 16, he's gone. Otherwise, he's staying.
 
There's really not that big a difference in being drafted in the last 5-10 picks and being one of the best players left on the board undrafted. You do want to be drafted even if late because it gets an NBA GM to put his ego into your fugure, but those latest picks rarely see the court. I chuckle when Iowa fans want to compare programs or talent based on NBA success because they think Fran's players have done better in the NBA for getting drafted almost last twice. Compare Garrett, Babb and BDJ's minutes to Marble's and White's? Those ISU players have logged something like 12x more NBA minutes. Babb and Marble are nearly a wash, then Garret and now BDJ have logged many more minutes and White is basically in the same position as Ejim trying to make a team by excelling overseas/dleague.
Except that all first-round rookie contracts are guaranteed for two seasons while the contract given to a UFA does not have to be guaranteed for any amount of time.
 
Except that all first-round rookie contracts are guaranteed for two seasons while the contract given to a UFA does not have to be guaranteed for any amount of time.

I was talking strictly second round, it's better to be drafted but those last few picks aren't far more likely to see NBA minutes than the best undrafted guys. Our local rivals have a very good team this year, prior to that the previous decade of basketball success was two players drafted in the final five picks who played far fewer minutes than several ISU players in the same time frame. Needless to say it got old.
 
I was talking strictly second round, it's better to be drafted but those last few picks aren't far more likely to see NBA minutes than the best undrafted guys. Our local rivals have a very good team this year, prior to that the previous decade of basketball success was two players drafted in the final five picks who played far fewer minutes than several ISU players in the same time frame. Needless to say it got old.
Other than the ego boost of being drafted, it's probably better to be undrafted than selected anywhere in the 2nd round. You can pick and choose the situation that best fits you if you go undrafted. You are owned as a 2nd round pick and likely seen as much as trade fodder than as a wanted piece.
 
Hard to believe that the NBA draft board mentioned has eight guys better than Hield.
 
I love the people who think he's not an NBA player and shouldn't go just because they want to be selfish and have him on the team next year.

Everyone wants him back next year but you also have to look at it from his perspective. This draft is pretty damn weak as not a lot of freshman are going to come out. All it takes is a promise from one team in the first round to make it worth it for him.

agree, but quite a few good point guards this year to compete with. I would like him to stay just because I love watching him play, but sincerely want what's best for him. He's given us his all already.
 
Not that literally, but it's a board where 99% of people don't watch and/or hate NBA basketball...yet argue with the few of us who love and watch the NBA about the NBA draft.

Speaking of which, I never watch the NBA but think it sucks. And MM is obviously NOT NBA talent. :rolleyes:
 
Monte could look at Hield who was a projected 2nd rd pick last year & is now a potential lottery pick and want to come back but the situation is very different given what OU returned this year and what ISU will be returning next year. Overall, I don't think monte will be very successful in the NBA he just doesn't have the body. NBA = no boys allowed
 
It seems MM offensive game is getting better, maybe MM feels one more year of development under Prohm would make him a first rounder. The question for Fred might be, will Fred Hoiberg use his first round pick to select MM? That answer could be telling!
 
Don't think Monte Morris would be successful in NBA? That's what they used to say about Stephen Curry. That's also what they used to say last year about Buddy Hield.
 
I love the people who think he's not an NBA player and shouldn't go just because they want to be selfish and have him on the team next year.

Everyone wants him back next year but you also have to look at it from his perspective. This draft is pretty damn weak as not a lot of freshman are going to come out. All it takes is a promise from one team in the first round to make it worth it for him.

Yes and no. This draft class is very weak which helps out Monte, but Monte also has a long way to go. His scoring touch has improved a ton since last year, but in the NBA a lot of point guards are faster than the guys that guard Monte currently so it won't be as easy for him to drive the ball like he's doing this year. Monte is also average, at best, on defense and is still only 170-180 pounds. I think he has the potential to be an NBA player, but he's got some things to work on before he solidifies himself as a first round pick. If he stays next year then he's got a chance to make himself a lottery pick. The money there versus a late first round/early second round is huge and being a 2nd round pick doesn't even guarantee you a roster spot. I think he stays one more season, especially since he will be the team leader and have a chance to be the floor general all the time instead of sometimes having guys like Niang help bring the ball up and set plays.

Remember how just about every expert also said that Niang made a tough choice to forego the NBA draft and come back for his senior season? He's not really an NBA guy, even though some team will give him a chance at a tryout or maybe pick him late in the 2nd round this season. People just say things sometimes to create a buzz.
 
You're trying to make a general draft rule and you just can't. The NBA rosters and the NBA rookie wage scales are small enough that teams just use their picks to fill the holes they have and if they don't have any holes, they either draft and stash a foreign player or trade their pick for a future pick. If they have to use pick #9 or #16 and their big need is backup PG then that's what they're taking. There isn't the pressure to get a certain level of player out of a certain range of Draft pick like their is in the NFL Draft. There are some drafts where there simply aren't any impact players in an entire draft. Ben Simmons is probably the only guy in the 2016 Draft that I'd put money on being an NBA ALL Star at some point in their career.
I look at the NBA today and I see lots of holes. Lakers. Magic. Hornet. Pelicans. Kings. Philly Chilli. Etc. Teams want a consistent player on the court. Monte is about as consistent as they come. Not flashy. Not Westbrookish. Just gets the job done. His passing is very precise.
 

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