Fire Mess
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i don't think this is mess' mess necessarily. the offensive line wasn't giving either QB any time at all to throw. they weren't run blocking at all. QB's weren't making good throws or decisions and WR's were dropping the ball. no OC can have success when things go like that. Bill Belichik (sp?) couldn't coach this offense into the endzone when you fail to execute any task.
This needs to be highlighted...
Rhoads himself at halftime said we needed to be calling better plays.
This isn't on playcalling or the QBs. Fact is Tiller killed the most important drive in the first half when after a fumble he dropped a catchable ball and then took a knee a yard short of a first down. And Young killed the most important drive in the second half (the only one we moved the ball) dropping a perfect pass from JB on 2nd and 15 that would have put us inside their 30.
Woody dropped Jantz first shovel pass and Steele couldn't get rolling he made 2 awful decisions after that.
This wasn't that bad a blowout. But the WRs were terrible apart from Horne with the RBs just as bad if not worse. And Lenz was nowhere to be seen was he hurt?
Woody dropped Jantz first shovel pass and Steele couldn't get rolling he made 2 awful decisions after that.
This wasn't that bad a blowout. But the WRs were terrible apart from Horne with the RBs just as bad if not worse. And Lenz was nowhere to be seen was he hurt?
How about we get to 100 yards rushing the ball? We're now 0-8 under Rhoads when that doesn't happen.
Run first, play defense. It's "Old Man" football, but we can't rely on either QB right now to hit receivers accurately OR for those receivers to hold onto the damn ball.
We have a stable of RBs, why not use them...
Run first, play defense. It's "Old Man" football, but we can't rely on either QB right now to hit receivers accurately OR for those receivers to hold onto the damn ball.
We have a stable of RBs, why not use them...
He also said he was pleased with Barnett's play in the first half....not sure what game he was watching. Total TEAM loss.
Agreed. Team loss, but the offense needs to move the ball consistently (not necessarily score on every possession) to give our team a better chance to win. It would help tremendously if we are able to run the ball. It would make it so much easier on the qb rather becoming so predictable and the defense not having to play the run.
As the QB coach/OC, he should be coaching the QB to make throws and coordinating the offense to put the QB in a position to make a throw that he, the OC, knows he can make.
Tiller should have made that play, but it would have helped if JB hadn't thrown it at his feet, which he did. It was a poor play from both players. Although I don't think JB's arm is good enough to make that throw in the first place, so it could be argued the play never should have been called. The whole thing is a mess. It's a combination of everyone not doing things very well. Reciever, line, qb, oc.
Everyone knows that firing a first year coordinator after his struggles makes everything better. That's why we fired Wally after his second year and the disasters versus Oklahoma and Utah, oh wait.... (sarcasm, for those of you that are confused)
Tony Franklin was a name we heard a lot when we were looking to get a new OC. Here are his stats at Louisiana Tech.
cfbstats.com - 2012 National Team Leaders
Number 1 scoring offense at 53.8 points a game.
cfbstats.com - 2012 National Team Leaders
221 yards a game on the ground.
cfbstats.com - 2012 National Team Leaders
317 yards a game through the air. No INTs.
cfbstats.com - 2012 National Team Leaders
8th best in Total Offense.
52 points at Illinois.
44 points at Virginia.
57 points against A&M.
cfbstats.com - 2012 National Team Leaders
Number 1 scoring offense at 53.8 points a game.
cfbstats.com - 2012 National Team Leaders
221 yards a game on the ground.
cfbstats.com - 2012 National Team Leaders
317 yards a game through the air. No INTs.
cfbstats.com - 2012 National Team Leaders
8th best in Total Offense.
52 points at Illinois.
44 points at Virginia.
57 points against A&M.
That was in year 2 with a junk Dline, sophomore LBers, and a mediocre backfield. We are in year four with experience almost everywhere, some good RBs and whether anyone wants to believe it or not, decent receivers. There is no ******* reason in the world that West has touched the ball 13 times this year. That is inexcusable especially when the staff knows what he can do and has said so in the past. There's no reason Nealy hasn't played more and judging by what he has done when given opportunity, there's no reason Bundrage hasn't been playing a lot more and targeted downfield.
Obviously, this is post game lunatics but I will say I'm not sure that Messingham should be a BCS level coordinator. We took an excellent position coach and promoted him to play caller. Our QBs have not developed under his direction.
This is what people I think aren't realizing. It is the OC/QB coaches job to develop the QBs. The QBs look no different if not worse from last year. Especially Barnett's foot work. When Eric Crouch is calling out your foot work on TV, you have a problem.
I mentioned him last year. I believe he worked at Auburn with Rhoads???? Don't understand why we didn't get him last year.