What is it with posters that have the word "ice" as part of their name?
Nice ad hominem when your take gets blown up.
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What is it with posters that have the word "ice" as part of their name?
"BF great coach. But he's the woman's basketball coach. That right there is enough to disqualify him from having the court named after him."
hmmmm....yeah I'd say that's marginalizing him because he coaches women.
Nice ad hominem when your take gets blown up.
How is it jacked up to say you're marginalizing him when you're saying no matter what he does he should never get his name on the court? I don't think he should now, but if he won the national title every year or had a resume like Summit's, he should be in the conversation. And to say he automatically shouldn't be considered because he coaches women's basketball just makes you an *******If you think I'm marginalizing him by stating that he doesn't deserve his name on the court (One of the best honors a coach can have) then by your jacked up definition I guess I am. He's a great women's bball coach, and there is no one I'd rather have coach the women. Frankly this whole conversation about BF's name on the court, is a joke. Perfect offseason thread.
How is it jacked up to say you're marginalizing him when you're saying no matter what he does he should never get his name on the court? I don't think he should now, but if he won the national title every or had a resume like Summit's, he should be in the conversation. And to say he automatically shouldn't be considered because he coaches women's basketball just makes you an *******
Earlier today, Chris posted a blog of mine on the front page, and I was somewhat surprised by a couple of comments suggesting that Fennelly would be more deserving than Fred of having the Hilton floor named after him.
No doubt BF is a tremendous Cyclone and an amazing basketball coach. There's not a better fit for ISUWBB than Bill. That said, let's fast-forward a 10-15 years and imagine that Fred has done what most of us believe he will have done over that period. Is there any doubt that Fred would be, by far, more deserving of such an honor than any Cyclone associated with Hilton Coliseum?
As I mentioned in my blog, he's associated with that floor in three different capacities now- ball boy, player, and coach. And he has yet to disappoint.
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Two notes:
1. Pat Summit is on a different level than most women's coaches, outside of Geno Auriemma
2. Fred Hoiberg means more to ISU than just about anyone a person is going to find.
Let me preface this by saying no...the floor won't happen because on a national level he wont achieve what would be necessary in most people's eyes in the time he has left coaching.
However....being very close to the program when I was in college, seeing what he's done for coach Frese, coach abrahamson and hundreds of girls.....and just what an amazing ambassador he's been for Iowa state...he most definitely should be honored in some way. If you follow him on twitter...he is by far the schools biggest cheerleader.
It's pretty sad if you marginalize what he's accomplished or his importance to Iowa state because he coaches.....girls.
Should be coach Orrs anyway.
"BF great coach. But he's the woman's basketball coach. That right there is enough to disqualify him from having the court named after him."
hmmmm....yeah I'd say that's marginalizing him because he coaches women.
BF great coach. But he's the woman's basketball coach. That right there is enough to disqualify him from having the court named after him.
I disagree with most of the posters here. BF is a important to this university as Fred and paul. When Bill showed up his first home game had 300 in attendance. Now is in the top 5 in attendance nationally. He has also withstood the test of time. For the court to be named after a coach look at the obstacles they have had to overcome. If fred is here for 20+ year then possibly. Right now I look at the degree of difficulty in turning a program around and Bill fits the Bill.