I'm an NCC member and I don't recall getting that letter. I really don't believe it either. Particularly since neither school has started selling singles yet - I have a hard time believing they would be returning allotments before July.
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I'm an NCC member and I don't recall getting that letter. I really don't believe it either. Particularly since neither school has started selling singles yet - I have a hard time believing they would be returning allotments before July.
IDK. I could sort of see it. The kickoff time and TV info was set a while ago... I'm sure there are a lot of Hawk fans that'd rather stay home and watch it on TV, and I'm not complaining at all about it...
We got our letter today. For those who already bought hillside seats, you can upgrade them to reg, seats for the extra $30 each. Or buy the $90 seats outright. Or the minipacks for $99 each.
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That's not they part I'm skeptical of. I get that people may not want to go. I just don't see returning an alotment before singles even go on sale. I thought you only had to return them a week or two ahead of the game.
As someone who already bought hillside, this is the way it should be.
I have no problems with promotions but quit screwing with the donors who paid full price.
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No, I lied just to start something.
Jeezus, I'm not sure why you message board junkies feel the need to question every piece of information that is posted on here.
Call the ticket office if you don't believe it.
Wow - forgive me for being confused about why they would return tickets +2 months before kickoff.
Help me out here with a couple of questions:
1. What is the total cost of the four game package?
2. You wrote: "but you can pick all 4 of those if you want" I thought that you had to buy at least Indiana or Ark. State and then 3 of the Big Ten games offered, or Indiana and Ark. State and 2 of the Big Ten games offered.
Sorry, I'm confused.
In your own words,you don't think there are finance people building pricing assumptions and modeling future revenue?
Not that it is a guarantee, but most places that increase capacity at their stadium has subsequently drawn more attendance as a result, regardless of capacity before and how close to filling it they were. I am willing to bet the first few seasons it is completed we'll set a new attendance record. Another point is a single deck won't increase the capacity, only with the double deck would capacity be at 60,000.
However, regardless of increased capacity or attendance, there would be a major increase in better seats (replacing thousands of standing room only/hillside with reserved seats). The revenue potential is higher for actual seats instead of grass. If the students were to be moved to the new seating, then that opens up 2,900 seats similar to the "Cy's Pack" area and nearly 5,000 more seats in "regular price + donation" territory . Even if there were to be no immediate financial gain, the improvement in aesthetics and perception (and recruiting) would be priceless in terms of long-term growth.
I'm sure there are people building those assumptions, but I also believe they need to go back and look. I do modeling for a living, and you can have faulty or extremley biased assumptions.
IMO, season ticket sales have to do with cost and the teams record. While the cost for season tickets are low relative to some of the conference powers, it's a big step up from what it used to be for ISU fans. They are showing they do not want to pay more until they have a winning product on the field.
It's the Chicken and the Egg argument about which would come first. All I am saying is we're having issues filling the stadium consistently now. I want to go to a live gameday atmosphere, not something watered down because people are more spread out.
The more interesting question to me is who are the 10,000 extra people that the ISU department is hoping to reach out to but are not able to? Where do they live, and what are those potential customers' biggest roadblock to buying season tickets?
1. Whatever the face value of the tickets is. There isn't a discount.
2. You're right, that wasn't worded the best. The games are broken down into 2 groups. Group A is Indiana/Ark. St.. You have to get one of those games, but you can get both if you want to. That makes sense, as both of those games would be hard sells otherwise.
Group B is the other 4 games I mentioned - UNI, 'Zona, NW, and Minnesota. You have to pick 2 of those games, but can pick 3, or all 4 if you want.
Any way you slice it, you have to get at least 3, but you can get as many as 6.
1.) So your contention is the short-term economic information in favor of adding the south end-zone comes from false authority. I doubt is not consulting with non-biased models.
Even if one were to accept that, what about the non-economic benefits and long-term economic projections? Does ISU benefit from delaying the South End-Zone Project? If there is no attendance gain (which there would be simply due to the new endzone), what about revenue potential being higher for actual seats instead of grass. If the students were to be moved to the new seating, then that opens up 2,900 seats similar to the "Cy's Pack" area and nearly 5,000 more seats in "regular price + donation" territory .
2.) Which has a better gameday atmosphere:
A.) X number of fans at JTS, with an open South End-Zone and fans far away/spread-out on the hillsides.
B.) X number of fans at JTS, with a closed stadium South End-Zone, and fans right-on the field.
As you know in modeling, it is best to project reality as accurately as possible, an not to use erroneous figures. With this in mind, why use the 10K figure? Even with the double deck, the stadium capacity would be 60K tops, 4K more than now. As previously mentioned, this 4K difference would be not cause the atmosphere to decrease, as a few empty seats on top would be better than a view of University Drive.
Yes, right at the beginning of the letter. That's the reason for the letter and the new offers.
Weird. The fact they returned the tix and I haven't received said letter yet.
I'm inclined to agree with Rogue above - something is amiss. My guess is that it's a convenient excuse for lackluster season ticket sales.
Of course, at $92/seat......
According to this HN thread the tickets haven't yet gone on sale at Iowa yet.
Scout.com: Iowa/Iowa State Tickets
Edit: I didn't actually click on the link at the HN website, it seems it goes to a Cyclone website.
Scout.com: Iowa/Iowa State Tickets
Edit: I didn't actually click on the link at the HN website, it seems it goes to a Cyclone website.
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I wonder if the student secton wouldnt be expanded out further and use some of the less desirable seats(corner endzone seats once they are built) to then be assigned for the oppositions fans.
The same thing happened last year. Single game tickets sold to anyone -- including visiting fans -- were in donor sections. That meant a visiting fan paying $60 had a better seat than ISU season ticket holders -- even season ticket holders in the lower tier of the donation sections. What is worse, we sold tickets to the Missouri game for what, $10, and threw in a t-shirt, and those fans were in sections sitting with people who paid $100 or more for their season ticket when the donation is pro-rated into the cost. Another classic Jamie Pollard move!
Are you sure it is limited to Pollard? Would it be more accurate to label it another classic AD move? It is my understanding that ISU has needed to do a complete redo of seating privileges for sometime.