F*CK IOWA

ISU lost to Ohio and Iowa and got smoked by Oklahoma. What does that say about ISU this year?

If you are saying Iowa is terrible, then ISU is worse than terrible. I don't believe either of those to be true.

ISU did beat OSU and K-state though.
 
I'd throw Purdue and Michigan State in there.
In Iowa State's defense they got a tough big 12 draw. If they played West Virginia's schedule there's no difference vs the big ten west. Except they did play at Penn state in noncon so kudos to Moutaneers there
 
Deacon was solid against NW, Rutgers and Illinois. But those games were essentially all home games (I realize they played at Wrigley).
Yeah to me, outside of his first handful of games, he has been at least serviceable for them. He is not winning you any games, but he isn't losing them either, which is way more valuable in Kirk's system.
 
In Iowa State's defense they got a tough big 12 draw. If they played West Virginia's schedule there's no difference vs the big ten west. Except they did play at Penn state in noncon so kudos to Moutaneers there

I'd have to sift through (I hate huge conferences) but not many teams both played UT and OU.
 
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I can agree with that assessment. The one thing I will disagree is Iowa won't be one of the top 3-4 teams in the new big 10 with Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon, Washington, and USC, unless Iowa somehow gets yet another favorable schedule draw down the road
I agree I don't think it happens much for either but there's an increased possibility I think
 
Measuring the crappy teams in the conference against one another doesn't do anything. Cincy, Baylor, MSU, and Purdue are all garbage.

ISU also had to play both teams that are in the conference championship, @ #12 OU and @ #25 KSU. We went 2-2 against those teams.
 
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Yeah to me, outside of his first handful of games, he has been at least serviceable for them. He is not winning you any games, but he isn't losing them either, which is way more valuable in Kirk's system.
I mean he did throw an interception to lose the game against Nebraska.. Chubba Purdy is just a horrible QB and made the same exact mistake two plays later. Deacon is flat out bad. He's just as worse as Petras.
 
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Yeah to me, outside of his first handful of games, he has been at least serviceable for them. He is not winning you any games, but he isn't losing them either, which is way more valuable in Kirk's system.
Idk he was good vs Rutgers and ok vs Illinois but outside that I think he's a negative value. He should of lost the Nebraska game on his ridiculous last throw. I think he'd turn it over a lot more if we weren't conservative as can be. If it's not a 1-2 read type play he really really struggles
 
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ISU lost to Ohio primarily because key players were vomiting during the game. When you get a stomach bug, are you throwing on football equipment and try to play a game, or are you on the couch trying to stay hydrated/rehydrate? I believe I have mentioned this once or twice to you....

Yes, ISU played poorly against OU. That was early in the season with a very young team still trying to learn on the fly. The team certainly has played much better as the season has progressed. Yet Iowa hasn't seen any progression. They continually struggle against inferior teams, as showcased by the final game of the season.
Iowa State would score 7-13 points and lose to Iowa in September, yesterday, today, tomorrow, Christmas, January 1st, etc....
 
In Iowa State's defense they got a tough big 12 draw. If they played West Virginia's schedule there's no difference vs the big ten west. Except they did play at Penn state in noncon so kudos to Moutaneers there
I agree with you on this. West Virginia basically had the same schedule as Iowa this year. Got to play the 4 conference newcomers who all had various levels of struggle, a characteristic similar to bottom 2/3 of Big 10 West, Purdue, Michigan State etc. (UCF at least became bowl eligible the final week of the season), and both played and lost horribly at Penn State. Their best wins were UCF and Texas Tech, both at 6-6. Iowa's best win was probably a toss up between 7-5 Iowa State and Wisconsin.
 
Petras is better than Hill. I don't even think it is that close TBH.
Yeah I'd probably be on that side of the argument as well. Fact of the matter is that Iowa had a cakewalk this year to the championship game and they didn't choke it away. They literally did not need an offense to win the division. It's hilariously impressive.
 
Do Hawkeyes really not think it was advantageous to play ISU in week 2 after we lost our starting QB, RB, TE, and OL to gambling?
According to ISU Footballs director of personnel, we played 32 freshman over 4771 snaps this fall.

We were an incredibly young team that was learning to play together.

I don't see anyway that ISU would not beat Iowa if the game was played today, especially after Iowa losing Cade, Lachey, All, and Dejean. I just want Iowa fans to admit that as of right now, today, ISU is the better team.
 
Do Hawkeyes really not think it was advantageous to play ISU in week 2 after we lost our starting QB, RB, TE, and OL to gambling?
According to ISU Footballs director of personnel, we played 32 freshman over 4771 snaps this fall.

We were an incredibly young team that was learning to play together.

I don't see anyway that ISU would not beat Iowa if the game was played today, especially after Iowa losing Cade, Lachey, All, and Dejean. I just want Iowa fans to admit that as of right now, today, ISU is the better team.
They are not the better team. Iowa State would lose to Iowa. Iowa State will struggle to move the ball on Iowa. Iowa State is not good.
 
Do Hawkeyes really not think it was advantageous to play ISU in week 2 after we lost our starting QB, RB, TE, and OL to gambling?
According to ISU Footballs director of personnel, we played 32 freshman over 4771 snaps this fall.

We were an incredibly young team that was learning to play together.

I don't see anyway that ISU would not beat Iowa if the game was played today, especially after Iowa losing Cade, Lachey, All, and Dejean. I just want Iowa fans to admit that as of right now, today, ISU is the better team.
Unfortunately not the way it works though..
 
Do Hawkeyes really not think it was advantageous to play ISU in week 2 after we lost our starting QB, RB, TE, and OL to gambling?
According to ISU Footballs director of personnel, we played 32 freshman over 4771 snaps this fall.

We were an incredibly young team that was learning to play together.

I don't see anyway that ISU would not beat Iowa if the game was played today, especially after Iowa losing Cade, Lachey, All, and Dejean. I just want Iowa fans to admit that as of right now, today, ISU is the better team.
I feel like Kirk would invite us to join him in the mud still, and Campbell would willingly oblige as he is so willingly prone to do in this series.

For what its worth though, I would like to see this game played during actual rivalry week in CFB. Just try it out for a year or two. For ISU's sake, because I feel like the kid gloves are still on in early September with Campbell. And from the Iowa perspective enough of this fabricated Iowa/Nebraska rivalry. Let them play Oklahoma or Colorado on Black Friday like they used to.
 
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ISU is an above average football team. Iowa is also an above average football team.
You are right. They are both above average. Iowa State can beat Iowa, but Iowa can definitely beat Iowa State. Neither team plays with any consistency to prove they are leaps and bounds ahead of one another.
 
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