Expectations for 2018-2019

Good list cyfan92. I'd say the teams that we should realistically have a chance to pass:

OSU: No brainer. We should be ahead of them.
OU: I think they take a step back without Young and they've been extremely pedestrian of late.
BU: I think they take a big step back next year.
TCU: Loses Brod who has killed us
KSU: Loses Wade who has killed us

That's 5 teams right there. I doubt we pass all of them but that should be possible for all of them.
 
We've gotten straight piss pounded several times, and many of those leads were generated just after half when the legs should be somewhat rested. That's actually one of my concerns too. However, again I'm flushing this season. Nothing to be gained by harping on it. We'll see what happens next year.

I remember a lot of games where we have played them tough for about 30 minutes, or even 35 minutes, and just ran out of gas/shut down at the end.

We have lost a decent bit of games that were close, too, until we started going to desperation strategies (such as fouling or a press) that sometimes work but, when they do not, often inflate the margin beyond the actual tenor of the game.

Depth and experience will help with both of those problems.

We returned 12 starts last year. Twelve. If you count Jacobson from Nebraska and Shayok from Virginia, we will have something like 200 next season.

Big 12 could be relatively down next year compared to this year. Unfortunately, KU has some amazing transfers sitting out this year and a great class like always that will most likely keep them at the top for 2018-2019. A top half finish next year should be our MINIMUM expectation.

As of today:
Texas Tech loses a lot but does return Zhaire Smith (bad recruiting class for 2018)
WV loses Carter and Evans (decent recruiting class coming in)
TCU loses a lot but gets Fischer back (#31 recruiting class coming in)
K State returns a lot but has a terrible coach (worst recruiting class next year)
OU loses ESPN's chosen one plus Latten (class only has 1 signed player)
Texas is expected to lose a lot to the Draft. (Good recruiting class though - 2 Top 50 recruits)
Baylor loses their top 4 scores (Average to ok class for 2018)
OK Lite loses a lot (Bad recruiting for 2018)

I'm not sure about other schools transfers besides KU so that could change this

24-7 has us ranked with the #3 class in the conference right now.

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Part of that is just having a big class, but I would hold THT and Griffin up to anybody.
 
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Good list cyfan92. I'd say the teams that we should realistically have a chance to pass:

OSU: No brainer. We should be ahead of them.
OU: I think they take a step back without Young and they've been extremely pedestrian of late.
BU: I think they take a big step back next year.
TCU: Loses Brod who has killed us
KSU: Loses Wade who has killed us

That's 5 teams right there. I doubt we pass all of them but that should be possible for all of them.


Wade is a JR. KSU effectively loses no one if importance.
 
Next year’s schedule is brutal. Maui, Missouri, SEC Challenge. We could be significantly better and have a few more non-conference losses. That would put a good amount of pressure on getting a top-5 finish in the Big 12.
Not necessarily. Losing to good teams in the non-con does not hurt your tournament resume that much. As long as we stay in the mix in conference we should be in. Hold serve at home for the most part and beat a few quality teams on the road. In the Big XII that's more than enough to get in.
 
One thing we’ll have to watch is babbs health. I think the rest of thd injuries will be ok but if they can’t figure his knee/back that could be trouble.
 
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One thing we’ll have to watch is babbs health. I think the rest of thd injuries will be ok but if they can’t figure his knee/back that could be trouble.

Totally agree on Babb. And I thought someone say that he has had problems since last summer. And if all the doctors keep saying is he needs rest but the rest isn't making it better that is a big problem.
 
Big 12 could be relatively down next year compared to this year. Unfortunately, KU has some amazing transfers sitting out this year and a great class like always that will most likely keep them at the top for 2018-2019. A top half finish next year should be our MINIMUM expectation.

As of today:
Texas Tech loses a lot but does return Zhaire Smith (bad recruiting class for 2018)
WV loses Carter and Evans (decent recruiting class coming in)
TCU loses a lot but gets Fischer back (#31 recruiting class coming in)
K State returns a lot but has a terrible coach (worst recruiting class next year)
OU loses ESPN's chosen one plus Latten (class only has 1 signed player)
Texas is expected to lose a lot to the Draft. (Good recruiting class though - 2 Top 50 recruits)
Baylor loses their top 4 scores (Average to ok class for 2018)
OK Lite loses a lot (Bad recruiting for 2018)

I'm not sure about other schools transfers besides KU so that could change this
K St will be top 3 going into next year.
Just spit balling, without knowing much about incoming recruits and transfers:
KU
K St
WVU
Tech
Texas
Tcu
ISU
OU
Baylor
OSU

This is how I think the coaches/ media will rank the Big 12 going into the season, not necessarily how I think they'll end up.
 
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Not necessarily. Losing to good teams in the non-con does not hurt your tournament resume that much. As long as we stay in the mix in conference we should be in. Hold serve at home for the most part and beat a few quality teams on the road. In the Big XII that's more than enough to get in.
Sure, there are exceptions, but wins still matter and the Big 12 is already a formidable challenge in that regard.

If we go 10-2 or 9-3 the tough schedule is a huge boost. But if we go 7-5 non-conference due to some tough close losses as we figure things out, now the margin for error is small for what’s a very critical year.
 
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K St will be top 3 going into next year.
Just spit balling, without knowing much about incoming recruits and transfers:
KU
K St
WVU
Tech
Texas
Tcu
ISU
OU
Baylor
OSU

This is how I think the coaches/ media will rank the Big 12 going into the season, not necessarily how I think they'll end up.

Tech loses a ton. Granted they have two good freshman but I don't see them being that high next year.
 
Tech loses a ton. Granted they have two good freshman but I don't see them being that high next year.
I think coaches and media throw them a bone. Zhaire Smith and Culvert coming back are huge for them. They're 2nd and 3rd on the team in scoring.
 
Wade is a JR. KSU effectively loses no one if importance.
Perhaps one of Jacobsen, Griffin or Conditt can guard him. I only mention Conditt because he's very mobile for his length, but he'll have a lot of acclimating to do. Maybe another season for Lard helps there too. I don't think Solomon can keep with him.

Regardless, he'll still get his. What are his chances are in the NBA?
 
Perhaps one of Jacobsen, Griffin or Conditt can guard him. I only mention Conditt because he's very mobile for his length, but he'll have a lot of acclimating to do. Maybe another season for Lard helps there too. I don't think Solomon can keep with him.

Regardless, he'll still get his. What are his chances are in the NBA?
Tall guys who can shoot are in right now.
 
Top 5 in the league assuming Wiggy and Lard both return. Also assuming NWB stays at point and Wiggy at the 3.

1. Talley will be a huge factor assuming continued improvement.
2. The jump at 2 guard from Jackson to Shayok will be enormous.
3. The trio of Lard, Young and Jacobson in the post really allows for physical play.
4. The team might be the longest we've ever seen in an ISU uniform. Should really help disrupting the passing lanes.
Why do a lot of folks think Shayok is going to be so much better than DJ? Why did he leave UVA? I mean I hope he is but I think maybe we are under valuing DJ. If someone can inform me why Shayok is expected to be so much better thanks in advance.
 
Why do a lot of folks think Shayok is going to be so much better than DJ? Why did he leave UVA? I mean I hope he is but I think maybe we are under valuing DJ. If someone can inform me why Shayok is expected to be so much better thanks in advance.


DJ was good offensively, but limited defensively due to size (at least playing major minutes).

Shayok was UVA's second best offensive scorer on a team that didn't score a lot. I think his defense and rebounding will at least offset what we lose in scoring from DJ.

I also think Shayok will compliment Wigginton better. With DJ and Wigginton on the court together, it was two SG's that are both under 6'2". That's a pretty short line up defensively. Shayok will be able to guard the opposing teams best wing, which is something DJ struggled to do.

Also with DJ, even though he was usually a very good shooter, he was all or nothing because he had very little way to score when his outside shot wasn't falling. Shayok can get to the rim and shoot the 3. Similar to Wigginton.
 

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