Eli king?

[clonedude]

So learn for ONCE and think before you post. You have to backtrack a lot on your over-emotional and constantly terrible takes. When you are thinking about posting something, just take a minute to not post it and really try and think if what you are posting is a good idea or if you are going to get flamed for it. Your post(s) early on in this thread absolutely deserve to get annihilated.

I've had tons of stupid posts, and I do my best to try and think or not get too emotional before posting. Just think before you hit submit.

Not a bad suggestion. I do try to do that, but not always successful. I hadn’t really thought about this team needing as much playing time together as possible….. and more than that I felt terrible for Eli. I just didn’t understand why he didn’t get more minutes in these blowouts.

But it made more sense when people brought up this team needing as much playing time together as possible.

 

[madguy30]

Last year we had 4 games with 4 days between each before our Thanksgiving tourney. I blame this thread on only having 1 game a week. Only so much you can talk about with so much time between games.

Could always start another 'Will anyone ever play football for ISU again?' thread.

 

[jctisu]

Not a bad suggestion. I do try to do that, but not always successful. I hadn’t really thought about this team needing as much playing time together as possible….. and more than that I felt terrible for Eli. I just didn’t understand why he didn’t get more minutes in these blowouts.

But it made more sense when people brought up this team needing as much playing time together as possible.

Rule of thumb with a freshman is if they are not:

A) An absolute stud or extremely good player
OR
B) A player that HAS TO play because of numbers at a position

Most of the time, they are going to slow play and develop them a bit because there's no point in wasting a year of eligibility if you know you can likely get much more production out of said player by red shirting. We shall see what they do with Eli here. Hell, once he gets more practice in the system on defense he may see more playing time.

 

[Clone95]

I’m pretty sure, in basketball, if you play at all, you can only get a medical red shirt. Not like the 4 game rule in football. Unless that changed in the past year.

 

[stateofmind]

Man if I was on here enough to have personal grudges I would take time off from this site. Give yourself a 2 day timeout, then keep trying longer. Come for information. No sense in posting every thought.

 

[qwerty]

I blame Manning

Danny Manning is at Louisville now. What the heck does he have to do with Eli King?

 

[SoleCyclone]

I'm not concerned about Eli. He had a little further to go than Lipsey and Watson, played in a smaller class in MN if I recall correctly. 2A out of 4A. Tamin at least played at the highest level in the state of Iowa, and was Mr. Basketball in the state, winning a championship. Watson played at Totino-Grace, one class above Eli.

We are undermanned at guard this year. If Eli can get up to speed, he'll see minutes.

I wouldn't take high school classes into account as much as maybe 20 years ago. Eli played on the same AAU team as Tamin which is competing at the highest level nationally. They exponentially play more games in the summer than they do during a high school season.

 

[Drew0311]

Danny Manning is at Louisville now. What the heck does he have to do with Eli King?

Guess you are being sarcastic. Pretty big stretch though

 

[jcyclonee]

Based on what I've seen of him so far, I absolutely guarantee he won't see any game time or score any points before Sunday. It's serious.

He's still my favorite player simply because of his receding hairline.

 

[Statefan10]

If Eli puts in the work he’s going to be a stud. He’s a crazy athlete with a high basketball IQ. It’s been rare as of late to see guys develop behind the scenes in our basketball program but I think it’ll happen a lot more with TJ.

 

[t-noah]

I'm having a great time with this, but it's smat to trust TJ's recruiting enough that we can assume this young man isn't a bust 2 games in. He's going to be fine.

We can't handle the truth! (Jack N.)

 

[Big_Sill]

If Eli puts in the work he’s going to be a stud. He’s a crazy athlete with a high basketball IQ. It’s been rare as of late to see guys develop behind the scenes in our basketball program but I think it’ll happen a lot more with TJ.

I'm excited for his future, but I don't think he's a "crazy" athlete. He is athletic enough at this level. Grill is a better athlete. His success will be dependent on making shots, kinda like a Naz Long type development.

 

[Cyclonepride]

I'm excited for his future, but I don't think he's a "crazy" athlete. He is athletic enough at this level. Grill is a better athlete. His success will be dependent on making shots, kinda like a Naz Long type development.

 

[VeloClone]

Come on, guys; can we please get this thread back on topic?

Has Eli been forced into the portal yet?

 

[Gunnerclone]

You guys….this thread was a great random find today since we haven’t played for awhile and don’t play again until Sunday. There’s no finer CF tradition than thinking every 3 star recruit from Iowa or a bordering state is going be some stud all-con player. TJ is a good coach, he’s definitely a “program coach” (as opposed to “players coach”).

With King I see a guy that TJ thinks can be a good contributor/role player and a guy that will work his ass off and is willing to make others around him better and wants to be at ISU. We need those guys and it’s okay to say King is probably going to be one of those guys. If he’s Caleb Grill level in two years I’ll be happy about it.

 

[Cyrealist]

I wouldn't take high school classes into account as much as maybe 20 years ago. Eli played on the same AAU team as Tamin which is competing at the highest level nationally. They exponentially play more games in the summer than they do during a high school season.

I hope we get to see him play more eventually. It looks like he would really open up the offense. But the coaches have to establish their rotation and develop chemistry among those players.

 

[Statefan10]

I'm excited for his future, but I don't think he's a "crazy" athlete. He is athletic enough at this level. Grill is a better athlete. His success will be dependent on making shots, kinda like a Naz Long type development.

"On the defensive end he is super intense," said Fuhrmann. "He's physical, some of the best instincts on the ball and off the ball that I have ever coached. Offensively, he plays at a speed that a lot of others guards can't play at while still maintaining control. He can go from 25-to-100 in a split second and jumps out of the gym, absolutely jumps out of the gym."

That quote is from D1 Minnesota’s head coach Jay Fuhrmann. Obviously going to be some bias there but he’s seen a lot of talent. We’re talking about a kid who had high level P5 offers to play WR, including Notre Dame and Penn State. I believe he could have the highest vertical on the team too. Now that doesn’t mean crap in terms of how good of a basketball player he’ll be, and you’re correct in that Grill is also a freak athlete.

King is more in control of his athleticism than Caleb and if he stays the course and hits his ceiling, he will end up being a better player than Caleb.

 

[t-noah]

I'd be more impressed if he could dunk L-handed!

I mean, anybody can do it with their dominant hand. Ahem.

 

[GoldCy]

I realized most of you weren't born yet, but after Dedric's first few games everyone was wondering why the hell Floyd brought him to ISU.

 

[Cyforce]

I realized most of you weren't born yet, but after Dedric's first few games everyone was wondering why the hell Floyd brought him to ISU.

I was in the Knapp to see the 2000 team get beat. Well actually I went down the street and watch the last 5 minutes at the Westport. Thinking WTF is this ****.