Derrick Hayes was good for the Clones but he had no chance with Dedric Willoughby waiting in the wings. Dedric was a huge sleeper for Floyd at New Orleans and was a star from the jump his 2 years at ISU.
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End of year these days. "Well, Bobby, you know our incoming freshmen suck and won't bump you. However, we are going to the portal and try to recruit over you so you might be starting or riding the pine and if we score a portal home run you'll have no time left to do anything. Even enjoy the ride!'
Yes, what a reward of sticking with the program.
Those are the guys that are burned in the transfer era. The ones that help the programs as depth guys, in "exchange" for thinking eventually they'll be starters. But when their time comes, they're just an okay starter, in part because of not having played as much, and so a staff grabs a very good start on the portal.
So I lean towards the more open transfer era being in the favor of both players and coaches. A more efficient market.
NIL/pay-to-play could really make it truly an annual free agency though.
I played slow pitch softball against Dedric and Company. Really a decent person, easy going, incredibly fleet afoot.
Since NIL I have no sympathy for any player losing their spot/opportunity. I also would like to see athletes be classified as employees and pay taxes on their benefits. We can't even deduct donations qualifying for tickets. They are getting a free ride. They asked for it.
Spiteful doesn't look good on anyone.
I was never a fan of the NIL thing because of what it would (and is, in my opinion) do to college sports. But college athletes still have to do a hell of a lot for the scholarship benefits they get. The amount of time they have to put in perfecting their craft while juggling travel and study is immense. I think it is pretty selfish to have the attitude that they somehow owe you amatuerism as well as the entertainment value they already bring you.
And I'm pretty sure the NIL deals they get legally have nothing to do with their status as a student athlete so are fully taxable. Let's also remember that the vast majority of student athletes are getting little or no NIL benefit. How wonderful would it be for a scholarship backup midfielder on the soccer team to have to come up with a bunch of money to pay taxes on their scholarship when it is pretty much their only income while in college and they have to turn around and give it right to the university anyway.
Unintented consequences. The elite weren't thinking of anyone but themselves.
So you want the womens gymnastics team paying taxes on their scholarships and room and board, even though they are amateurs who may not even have a source of income?
NIL is here to stay, but seems like the basketball development structure in the US will change over the next 3-5 years. The growth of so called prep-schools is just the first shoe to drop. The next will be the NBA making HS kids draft eligible.
They might not allow them to play in the NBA directly, but I see G-League teams being comprised predominantly with HS kids in the next 5 years. Get paid to play, make NIL cash and don't have to worry about going to class.
They might not allow them to play in the NBA directly, but I see G-League teams being comprised predominantly with HS kids in the next 5 years. Get paid to play, make NIL cash and don't have to worry about going to class.
Wasn’t skip McCoy one? Know he left, was thinking he was there until JO left.
Willoughby one of my all-time favorites. Felt like the ball was going in every time he shot it. So smooth. Sniper.
Yes - the pretentious talking heads like Jay Bilas have clamored for years how “it’s not fair to the players with no portal play immediate rule.” Then it passes and it forces more players to lose spots. Also if I wanted to watch a sport where it was all about the players I’d just watch the NFL and NBA. As a college fan I don’t like where we are right now.
No I don't. Perhaps one an athlete accepts NIL money they are declaring they are at a different level/category and they become accountable for all benefits.
Penalize the elite.
Good memory for the name -- McCoy was pre-Floyd, but I had to check the year, he was at ISU 90-91 and 91-92, then transferred to New Mexico State. (He overlapped with Thigpen, so probably wasn't gonna get much time).
I get the impulse here, but the NCAA brings in over a billion a year from the basketball tournament alone. There are multiple coordinators making 7-figure salaries in football. And if we’ve learned nothing else from the FBI investigation, we know that basketball players were routinely getting 6 figure deals for a year of play. The amateurism ship sailed long ago. If NIL brings payments over the table instead of under, and redirects money to players instead of coaches, ADs, and facility projects, we should be glad.
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No other student has ever been held to that standard. And it's not going to happen here, with athletes either. People just need to face reality or find something other than college sports to follow. This is the new landscape. If you're wishing for an outcome where athletes are going to become MORE restricted, then you have not been paying attention. There's still plenty of money to be made. Plenty of people who will still watch. The sports are still being played. Dinosaurs are clinging to a past that isn't coming back. Adapt or die.
You may not realize it but some big donors are letting the ship sail. They are thinking schools/kids don't need the money and you can always get a good ticket if you want to go.
Since not many on this forum donate, probably not much understanding of that here.
You're correct about coaches salaries. Pushed admission costs to prevent a lot of people from going. Hard to enhance young family fan base when they can't afford it. Have you looked at housing costs lately or fuel. I'm sure most of you want student loan forgiveness as well. It would help those on partially aid.
I thought the covid year was for the 2019-20 season since there wasn't an NCAA tournament.