Doug Sirmens is crooked
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You might also consider the call directly before that where the dude took 3 steps prior to making contact with Grill. You should be able to count on the player having to stop very soon after picking up the ball. It is hard to play D when a player is allowed an extra step.
Cool. So ISU was not trying to score. Got it. They passed the ball around the perimeter I guess. That means neither team tried to score for 95% of the game.
Only fast breaks count then. Is this correct?
What if a dude driving to the bucket stops and passes out to the 3 point line? Is that acceptable?
That interpretation is not what I have experienced in 45 years of playing and watching basketball. But, rules interpretations during ISU games are a learning experience more often than not.
She was all over the place. She called at least one dubious charge on ISU in addition to the two dubious blocks. It’s not mutually exclusive to say that OSU absolutely beat ISU last night AND there was a lot of wild reffing. Multiple calls made from out of position again. It was something else.
There was one play where the ref by Boynton blew the whistle: the OSU player was under the rim, had his back to him, and I believe Caleb slapped the ball away, and they called the foul. The ref that was literally feet away didn't blow the whistle.
When I checked the replay of the game I realized there was blood on the floor, I’m guessing that’s why it actually got stopped.
Yea, I was at the game so I rewatched it and realized that. I also couldnt see from where I was that the OSU player was bleeding on the floor. That is pretty much an automatic stop.
So, if there is blood, you stop it, gotcha.
The only reason to stop it then is for the safety of the remainung players and there would be very few times when we had possession when that player's position would have come into play.
And before someone jumps in and says I don"t care about player safety, I'd like to say I don't care what yhw rule is as long as it is called consustently and that didn't seem to be and 2) drawing blood does not indicate any more of a severe injury than many other things. I barely grazed a guy's eyebrow with my elbow (he went for the ball as I was coming down from a rebound) playing pickup ball once and he bled like a stuck pig.
I turned my knee around pretty good trying to put a move on Terry Woods, (SOB could hit 3s at Beyer) and I had surgery, 6 weeks in a brace, then surgery again. I didn't bleed on the court at all.
Point is, if they are consistent, I don't care, but 1) that pool of blood would not have come into play until they got the ball back and 2) then every time someone hits the deck and doesn't get up immeduately, they need to stop play.
How many times this year have you seen guys go down in the lane and 2 or 3 shots and rebounds happen before they get up if they even do. That's more if a hazard than what happened yesterday.
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Take it up with the NCAA. It’s clear in their rule book to stop play at the earliest possible time if someone gets a wound that causes bleeding or if someone gets blood on them from another player.
Ok then. That makes sense and probably has been a rule for some time. Probably at least mid 80's.
Is it earliest possible time or imnediately with no other considerations.
Not an injury situation, rather a biohazard situation. Makes more sense then.
Thanks for clarifying,
The wording is earliest possible time, which I would interpret as “As soon as an official notices the blood”.
Here is the exact wording which falls under Rule 5 section 11 article 8:
When the game clock and shot clock are running, they shall be stopped when an official:
Suspends play at the earliest possible time when a player incurs a wound that causes bleeding or has blood on his body caused by blood from another player’s wound. The official shall allow 20 seconds to remedy the situation before instructing the player to leave the game.
We play an aggressive style of defense to make up for offensive talent. It's won us a lot of games. But our style draws fouls from the refs. So you put some of our results in the hands of objective humans instead of made baskets. It's just where we are as a program and hopefully we are more athletic in the future and won't rely on the refs to overlook or miss our fouls.
I saw Sirmons going to a late show at Jordan Creek at 10:00 on Friday night. Maybe he was tired?
I don’t appreciate what Grill did, but I wonder if TJ will get a little more vocal with the refs now and then simply because the players like it.
Team is lost and gassed! No scorers and we have zero adjustments as there are no scorers on the bench! Wild shots, horrific FT % and tired legs. Exchange FT with 3 PT and you have women’s team. Both going downhill fast and B12 bounce out. NCAA is looking grim! Stop with fan support excuse and crap refs, fans have been there and it is lame to blame them. Refs s/b criticized for their terrible calls - slinging mud about gambling is a Trumper response. Grow up !
Sirmens showed what an ass he is when he yelled at the scorers table guy then had a heated discussion with the bald ref.
Pretty sure that’s the Magic Johnson rule and it came into effect after Magic announced he had HIV in November of 1991.
There were probably rules about bloody players before, but leagues started taking it seriously after Magic and stopping play at the first sight of blood.