Does HCMC need a OC to call plays?

Campbell was just given a boatload of money to retain his defensive staff and upgrade his offensive staff. We need better playcalling, better OL coaching, and it's starting to look like Purdy has reached the infamous ISU QB plateau. On top of that, we are losing Monte and Butler - 2 immense pieces of our offense. The "grow your own staff internally" plan is not going to work unless these newly promoted GA's are budding geniuses.

He passed that his first game ? He had great year you’re nuts.
 
I remember attending games in the late 70s when Earle Bruce was the coach. His offense was very bland and the fans booed when he would run the ball up the middle. Then he left to go to Ohio State and ISU sucked for most of 40 years. I'll let HCMC decide and hope that he stays.....I don't want the next 40 years to be like the last 40.
 
This offense needs something. If not an OC, then it needs CMC to learn how to open it up more.

WSU abused us with throwing to speed guys in the flats all night. We never do that.

Also, where has Deshaunte Jones been? Or Akers? Or Milton? These are the kinds of athletes that you send in motion behind Purdy and hand them the ball once in a while on the edge. You want to open it up between the tackles for Monty.... then attack defenses on the edges with our speed guys above.

Our offense just seems so limited. No creativity at all. We hand off up the middle to Monty, or we throw bombs to Butler.... that's basically it.... that's our entire offense.

Does everyone remember in the Alamo Bowl when CMC put Re-al Mitchell in at WR, brought him in motion, faked the hand off to him and handed it to Monty on a counter? Made about 12 yards on that. Great play. But we rarely ever see it for some reason?

As I understand it, the offensive assistants helped or made the play calls. To me, the solution is to just name someone the OC. There is probably one guy that is mostly acting as OC right now.

I agree that they needed to use some of those speed guys more, including handing them the ball on in motion some times. It could be that they don't do this much because it is pretty hard to time it just right, so the QB gets the ball just before the motion guy gets there.
 
If Holgersen goes away, 5 of the 8 teams we defeated will have replaced their coaches. The status quo is unacceptable for them and they are making changes to be better next season. I wouldn't change anything on defense, but we were last in the Big12 in rushing and had the worst OL in the conference. You want to keep that going? Don't change a thing?

Dana is his own OC in Houston he announced.
 
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I remember attending games in the late 70s when Earle Bruce was the coach. His offense was very bland and the fans booed when he would run the ball up the middle.....

I must have been in the wrong section, don't remember the boos. I do recall a lot of exciting games and solid offense which ranked #2 in the country.
 
You mean before Heacock and the defense improved after the UT loss?
As I understand it, the offensive assistants helped or made the play calls. To me, the solution is to just name someone the OC. There is probably one guy that is mostly acting as OC right now.

I agree that they needed to use some of those speed guys more, including handing them the ball on in motion some times. It could be that they don't do this much because it is pretty hard to time it just right, so the QB gets the ball just before the motion guy gets there.

That is definitely needed, I want to know who to trash when the offense is not to my standards.
 
I remember attending games in the late 70s when Earle Bruce was the coach. His offense was very bland and the fans booed when he would run the ball up the middle. Then he left to go to Ohio State and ISU sucked for most of 40 years. I'll let HCMC decide and hope that he stays.....I don't want the next 40 years to be like the last 40.
Yes, I remember that vividly. Earle started out with three 4-7 seasons and the fans were freaking out wanting to get rid of him. Three yards and a cloud of dust, Earle. Earle was working on establishing the run game (as well as every thing else). But Earle was patient and persisted even though the fans wanted immediate success and some gaudy play calling to get another win or two per season. Lo and behold, the next season saw an 8-3 record. The fans were ecstatic. Earles's hard work was starting to pay dividends. The next two seasons would see us going 8-4.

To put those three eight win seasons in perspective, we were playing a round robin schedule in the Big Eight. Oklahoma, Nebraska and Colorado were basically top five teams nationally. Earle gave us one of the greatest three-season runs in ISU history. But he was patient and established the run game.

DAMN OHIO STATE!
 
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That's fine but if it's not someone from the outside I'm going to assume it's a title until proven otherwise.
Yeah, our offense wasn’t that different last year with an OC, albeit more handicapped with Kemp.

I’m guessing we’re going to have lower offensive efficiency and effectiveness than desired until we have a line that masks non-roster deficiencies.
 
I have no issue with how the play calling is currently working. Even if CMC names a OC, he will dictate to the OC what he wants from the offense. It may be conservative at times, but CMC obviously feels that gives us the best chance to win and based on his results the last two years I trust him.
 
I have no issue with how the play calling is currently working. Even if CMC names a OC, he will dictate to the OC what he wants from the offense. It may be conservative at times, but CMC obviously feels that gives us the best chance to win and based on his results the last two years I trust him.

Yup, I don't think we will ever see him run the score up on anyone. Mixed feelings on that, but that is his style.
 
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Yup, I don't think we will ever see him run the score up on anyone. Mixed feelings on that, but that is his style.

Campbell seems to be a guy who, does what is right. One part of that is not being a douchecanoe and running up scores. You may totally dislike that other coach, but you have to remember that there are 85 or so 18-23 year olds that you are teaching what is right with you and against you. I have seen it too many times in HS where coaches will run it up on one another due to the other coach and not account for the players (who are even younger) perception of what that means.
 
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Yeah, our offense wasn’t that different last year with an OC, albeit more handicapped with Kemp.

I’m guessing we’re going to have lower offensive efficiency and effectiveness than desired until we have a line that masks non-roster deficiencies.

So, I've thought about that and yeah, a great OL would help a bunch and probably get us somewhere around the top 20 in S&P. But that doesn't do everything. Michigan is an example. They've got great WRs, and NFL RB, probably an NFL QB who is pretty comparable to Purdy in skillet and a decent OL but their offense wasn't that great. Scheme and playcalling matter a lot. It's why those guys make so much money.
 
So, I've thought about that and yeah, a great OL would help a bunch and probably get us somewhere around the top 20 in S&P. But that doesn't do everything. Michigan is an example. They've got great WRs, and NFL RB, probably an NFL QB who is pretty comparable to Purdy in skillet and a decent OL but their offense wasn't that great. Scheme and playcalling matter a lot. It's why those guys make so much money.
Agree. Pretty high floor with a good roster like that and a one-move OC that’s good at checkers. A more limited ceiling than needed, though.
 
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