Does diet pop make you fat?

[tigershoops31]

. Obviously your not a science major -- google "sagan baloney" and read, it will take you 10 minutes and learning is fun -- I'd point you to another geniuses thoughts on this but he is a quadriplegic and you'd likely find a way to diss him as well

Also this wasn't a science experiment, it was my health. I wasn't going to try to "test" my findings by going back to high amounts of diet pop when I finally got all the feeling back in my extremities. Knowing that the diet pop was the only "variable" in what I had done or consumed during that time was enough for me to not drink any more of it.

 

[rebecacy]

Also this wasn't a science experiment, it was my health. I wasn't going to try to "test" my findings by going back to high amounts of diet pop when I finally got all the feeling back in my extremities. Knowing that the diet pop was the only "variable" in what I had done or consumed during that time was enough for me to not drink any more of it.

. You and Jenny McCarthy. -- her n of 1 (son) has done more to hurt recovery/treatment of autism than any other single person. Hopefully your not HOT, so gullible, science dumb folks won't listen to your argumentation. I'm done ...... Drink beer.

 

[clonehenge]

This was on Yahoo today...

Myth #13: Diet soda is better for you
Reality: It may lead to even greater weight gain

Just because diet soda is low in calories doesn’t mean it can’t lead to weight gain. It may have only 5 or fewer calories per serving, but emerging research suggests that consuming sugary-tasting beverages—even if they’re artificially sweetened—may lead to a high preference for sweetness overall. That means sweeter (and more caloric) cereal, bread, dessert—everything. In fact, new research found that people who drink diet soda on a daily basis have an increased risk of developing type 2 diabetes and metabolic syndrome.

Also thought this was interesting...

Myth #4: High-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is more fattening than regular sugar
Reality: They’re equally fattening. Beware!

Recent research has show that fructose may cause an increase in weight by interfering with leptin, the hormone that tells us when we’re full. But both HFCS and sucrose—better known as table sugar—contain similar amounts of fructose. There's no evidence to show any differences in these two types of sugar. Both will cause weight gain when consumed in excess. The only particular evil regarding HFCS is that it’s cheaper, and commonly shows up everywhere from bread to ketchup to soda.

 

[Bobber]

This was on Yahoo today...

Myth #13: Diet soda is better for you
Reality: It may lead to even greater weight gain

Just because diet soda is low in calories doesn’t mean it can’t lead to weight gain. It may have only 5 or fewer calories per serving, but emerging research suggests that consuming sugary-tasting beverages—even if they’re artificially sweetened—may lead to a high preference for sweetness overall. That means sweeter (and more caloric) cereal, bread, dessert—everything. In fact, new research found that people who drink diet soda on a daily basis have an increased risk of developing type 2 diabetes and metabolic syndrome.

Also thought this was interesting...

Myth #4: High-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is more fattening than regular sugar
Reality: They’re equally fattening. Beware!

Recent research has show that fructose may cause an increase in weight by interfering with leptin, the hormone that tells us when we’re full. But both HFCS and sucrose—better known as table sugar—contain similar amounts of fructose. There's no evidence to show any differences in these two types of sugar. Both will cause weight gain when consumed in excess. The only particular evil regarding HFCS is that it’s cheaper, and commonly shows up everywhere from bread to ketchup to soda.

Calories are calories. Do a study of people who drink 10 sugar pops and 10 diet pops a day and I'm pretty sure sugar pop people will gain more.

I think the study suggest people who have sweet tooths(and I'm one of them) will find ways to get sweets even if they drink diet pops.

 

[dmclone]

Calories are calories. Do a study of people who drink 10 sugar pops and 10 diet pops a day and I'm pretty sure sugar pop people will gain more.

I think the study suggest people who have sweet tooths(and I'm one of them) will find ways to get sweets even if they drink diet pops.

Correct.

I rarely trust these type of studies. I'm pretty sure that if you compare nondiet to diet drinkers the diet people are fatter on average to begin with. If they drank nondiet pop than they would be even fatter.

 

[aeroclone]

This was on Yahoo today...

Myth #13: Diet soda is better for you
Reality: It may lead to even greater weight gain

Just because diet soda is low in calories doesn’t mean it can’t lead to weight gain. It may have only 5 or fewer calories per serving, but emerging research suggests that consuming sugary-tasting beverages—even if they’re artificially sweetened—may lead to a high preference for sweetness overall. That means sweeter (and more caloric) cereal, bread, dessert—everything. In fact, new research found that people who drink diet soda on a daily basis have an increased risk of developing type 2 diabetes and metabolic syndrome.

Also thought this was interesting...

Myth #4: High-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is more fattening than regular sugar
Reality: They’re equally fattening. Beware!

Recent research has show that fructose may cause an increase in weight by interfering with leptin, the hormone that tells us when we’re full. But both HFCS and sucrose—better known as table sugar—contain similar amounts of fructose. There's no evidence to show any differences in these two types of sugar. Both will cause weight gain when consumed in excess. The only particular evil regarding HFCS is that it’s cheaper, and commonly shows up everywhere from bread to ketchup to soda.

Myth 13.1: correlation equals causation. Also, most journalists paid attention in their Stat class. Great, so people that drink a lot of diet soda are more likely to be fat and have diabetes. Is it because of the soda, or is it because they have a sweet tooth and make poor decisions in regards to the rest of their diets? How many times do you see someone at a Burger King ordering a triple whopper, large fries, and a diet coke? a 2000 calorie meal, 0 of that from soda. Tell me then how that guy is fat?

I have yet to see anyone prove how with all other factors equal, diet pop will cause weight gain or other serious health issues.

 

[cyfanatic]

Coke Zero. Its amazing.

I agree about Coke Zero. It is easily the "diet" soda that tastes most like its "non-diet" version. Love it!

But I am hooked on diet Mt Dew...goes down like water.

 

[ajk4st8]

Calories are calories. Do a study of people who drink 10 sugar pops and 10 diet pops a day and I'm pretty sure sugar pop people will gain more.

I think the study suggest people who have sweet tooths(and I'm one of them) will find ways to get sweets even if they drink diet pops.

Exactly. Diet pop has zero calories. Pretty impossible to gain weight on something that has zero calories.

 

[1100011CS]

No it's likely some other factor. Gaining weight usually boils down to consuming too many calories, fat, or carbohydrates and not exercising enough. You cut out calories switching to diet pop, but have likely gained it somewhere else in your diet.

I lost about 30 pounds this past year(about 15% of my body weight). I did it by keeping a close track of what I ate and exercising more. For me exercise seemed to be the biggest thing that helped. 3 to 5 hour work outs doing interval training really seemed to melt the pounds off.

I drink maybe 2 or 3 diet pops a week(I'm a 2 cups a coffee morning person). It's hard to beat good old water.

What!? 3-5 HOURS? I certainly hope you meant a week.

 

[Boxerdaddy]

Exactly. Diet pop has zero calories. Pretty impossible to gain weight on something that has zero calories.

If the only thing that people were allowed to eat or drink was soda....then yes you'd gain more from drinking the regular sodas. (And you'd die from lack of nutrients with the diet) What the experiments were showing was that in the cases where people drank diet..they were craving more sweets...or adding them to their diet where the people drinking the regular soda were not. The added sweets were then equal to or greater in caloric intake than the regular soda was. So it's not the diet soda directly but a side effect from the diet.

 

[nhclone]

People really make too much of weight gaining and losing. It doesn't matter what you eat, it matters how much. If you take in more calories than you burn, you will gain weight. Now, certain foods are better for you obviously. I've seen studies where they believe that the artificial chemicals in diet pop cause your body to slow it's metabolism in order to store more fat.
The best advice is to avoid pop altogether. I quit drinking pop in highschool and I rarely have one more than once a month or so. Best thing I ever did. Drink water.....zero calories and no debate on the artificial sweetners in it.

 

[CyinCo]

Sitting on your *** and doing nothing is what makes you fat. Period.

 

[1100011CS]

Also this wasn't a science experiment, it was my health. I wasn't going to try to "test" my findings by going back to high amounts of diet pop when I finally got all the feeling back in my extremities. Knowing that the diet pop was the only "variable" in what I had done or consumed during that time was enough for me to not drink any more of it.

Did you quit drinking pop entirely or just diet pop? That is, are you still drinking 5-6 cans of regular pop?

 

[1100011CS]

People really make too much of weight gaining and losing. It doesn't matter what you eat, it matters how much. If you take in more calories than you burn, you will gain weight. Now, certain foods are better for you obviously. I've seen studies where they believe that the artificial chemicals in diet pop cause your body to slow it's metabolism in order to store more fat.
The best advice is to avoid pop altogether. I quit drinking pop in highschool and I rarely have one more than once a month or so. Best thing I ever did. Drink water.....zero calories and no debate on the artificial sweetners in it.

Good advice but I just have a hard time doing it when there's a Dt. Pepsi in the fridge.

 

[dmclone]

The problem with water is that it tastes like water. I'll drink it but I don't enjoy it. It's like eating a piece of plain white bread.

 

[CyinCo]

The problem with water is that it tastes like water. I'll drink it but I don't enjoy it. It's like eating a piece of plain white bread.

There are some good tasting, low calorie water-like beverages out. Sobe makes some. Vitamin Water is good. Propell isn't bad either.

 

[dmclone]

I don't mind drinking a water or two while I'm drinking beer or after a workout but that's about it. When I used to run I would drink gallons.

 

[Boxerdaddy]

The problem with water is that it tastes like water. I'll drink it but I don't enjoy it. It's like eating a piece of plain white bread.

It's just like going from reg to diet pop. I was on a diet a few years back where I just drank water (I had food I mean but no pop) and drank over 64 ounces a day of plain water. You get used to it and will stop craving pop. The transition is the toughest part.

 

[jdoggivjc]

Calories are calories. Do a study of people who drink 10 sugar pops and 10 diet pops a day and I'm pretty sure sugar pop people will gain more.

I think the study suggest people who have sweet tooths(and I'm one of them) will find ways to get sweets even if they drink diet pops.

Such a gross oversimplification, and I'd guarantee the dietetic scientists would say as much. Essentially, yes - you consume fewer calories than you burn, you will lose weight, and vice versa. But are you really trying to suggest that a person that gets his 2000 daily calories from Snickers bars and pops are going to be in the same kind of health than a person that gets his 2000 daily calories from a balanced diet? More than likely not - junk food is "quick burn" energy, which means your body burns it quickly, causing a sugar crash, and then ultimately you can't do the other component to losing weight - exercising - because you've burned that energy already. Not to mention the deprivation of essential nutrients that your body needs.

Myth 13.1: correlation equals causation. Also, most journalists paid attention in their Stat class. Great, so people that drink a lot of diet soda are more likely to be fat and have diabetes. Is it because of the soda, or is it because they have a sweet tooth and make poor decisions in regards to the rest of their diets? How many times do you see someone at a Burger King ordering a triple whopper, large fries, and a diet coke? a 2000 calorie meal, 0 of that from soda. Tell me then how that guy is fat?

I have yet to see anyone prove how with all other factors equal, diet pop will cause weight gain or other serious health issues.

It's all in theory at the moment. According to my sports trainer/dietitian/chiro, when you consume artificial sweeteners, your pancreas releases insulin anticipating metabolizing those sugars. When your body doesn't get those sugars, your blood stream is then filled with unnecessary insulin, and your body begins seeking something to metabolize - i.e., you get hungrier than you normally would be. In other words, your body wants to consume extra calories it ordinarily wouldn't consume (which can lead to consuming more calories than you burn). If you don't consume those extra calories, eventually your pancreas stops releasing that insulin necessary to metabolize sugars. If that happens, at best you throw your metabolism out of whack (making it harder for your body to burn calories), at worst your pancreas stops functioning properly and you develop type 2 diabetes.

Sitting on your *** and doing nothing is what makes you fat. Period.

And this is the major key component that far too often gets overlooked. Contrary to what I said above, you could be a vegan, but if you consume more calories than you burn, you will gain weight. However, how often do you see an obese vegan (unless that person is trying to lose weight)? A person who intentionally lives that kind of lifestyle is usually a person that is taking care of their body in the first place and working out regularly. Not that I'm necessarily promoting the vegan lifestyle - I tried doing vegetarian when I was in college, and I didn't even last a week.

 

[drmwevr08]

I feel much better after reading this thread about my one can per day habit! Its usually not diet by the way. Of course, my overall diet and exercize is decent and I'm not overweight. I do have a problem when I eat out though. I generally drink a lot during a meal and so can easily go through 3-5 refils on pop. Who knows how much that could be. Probably 3-5 cans worth easily in a sitting.