Actually - you just proved mine. A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing. If you think amino acids are bad, wait until you run into the dreaded nucleic acids.
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Does diet pop make you fat?
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This is exactly right. About a year ago I was doing a process development study for a food company using artificial sweeteners, and people have no clue how intensely sweet they are compared to natural sweetners. We had people get sick just from being in the same room with the artificial sweetners simply because it made the air taste "sweet". If you would put a pinch of it on your tounge, that's all you would taste for the rest of the week, it is that strong. After that project I won't touch anything that contains artificial sweetners.
Although aspartame is sweeter..... a gram of HFCS has many more calories than a gram of aspartame.
Haha, I love those people. "Yeah, I'll have a number 4, Super sized, with a coke, no wait, make that a diet Coke. I'm watching my figure."
I am exactly the same as you. I hate coffee so I have a pop every morning, lunch and one in the afternoon. I have to quit at least one of those.
I've been drinking diet for so long (is 'Tab' still around?)..........at least 50-some years that I don't like real soda. My Mom only had Tab and Diet-Rite when we were growing up. I assume I'm in the huge minority but I'll dump a "real" coke or Pepsi out before I'll drink it. It's diet Coke and diet Mt. Dew for me.
Bingo, we have a winner.
If any of you took Ron Peters's Psych 101 class, this was studied in there. Artificial sweeteners trick your body into thinking nutrients are coming and you begin to produce digestive enzymes which, after going unused, convert to fat. Also, it has an artificial appetizer effect so that when you DO finally eat something, you are hungrier and will eat more.
Actually, this is wrong.
Any intro nutrition text will read that carbohydrates and proteins have 'roughly' 4 Calories per gram, ethanol 7 Calories per gram, and fatty acids 9 Calories per gram. Aspartame is, essentially, a protein.
This guy, Sweetener Aspartame (see under the 'biology' heading), should be an expert and he agrees that aspartame has 4 Calories per gram.
For HFCS, wikipedia (High-fructose corn syrup - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) has a table sourced from the USDA nutrient database showing both kcal/100 g of aspartame (you'll have to divide that figure by 76 to correct for the 24 g of water in 100 g of HFCS). This works out to 3.7 Calories per gram. I figured that the 4 Calories per gram listed in the first source above for aspartame was likely a rounded figure, so I went to the USDA nutrient database to calculate the precise value. Turns out aspartame has 4.01 Calories per gram.
So actually, it turns out that HFCS has FEWER calories per gram than aspartame.
Going the opposite direction, we just bought some throwback Pepsi. Too freaking sweet. As in too sweet, not..... sweet!.
When I switched a year and a half ago, I lost 20 pounds. I switched because I drink it like coffee. 4-6 is pretty standard on a weekday and on a weekend I can drink 10 easily.
I need my caffeine and soda is the only way to really get it. I hate coffee. There are much worse vices to have IMO.
I need my caffeine and soda is the only way to really get it. I hate coffee. There are much worse vices to have IMO.
CycloneErik
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Just for curiosity's sake, I tried a regular soda a couple of weeks ago. It didn't taste different enough for me to notice either way, but I sure didn't think I was missing anything.
Diet just is regular for me now. It's a good way to be, if you're going to drink soda.
Sorry but those two articles (by the same guy) didn't really convince me of anything. He pretty much only went after the complete crackpot theories against Aspartame and HFCS which wasn't real difficult to do (like any extreme ideas on either side of most arguments).
I will say from personal experience that I am certain that diet pop caused my temporary health issues. Again it was in very large quantities, but I had and have since consumed the same quantities of regular pop with none of the same symptoms. And as soon as I stopped drinking diet pop they slowly went away.
I drink regular pop, and probably drink more during the summer than the winter. But yet, I lose weight during the summer.
Riding in my golf cart must be more exercise than bowling.:spinny:
On another issue, can we get the spinning smiley renamed the Linda Blair smiley?
Riding in my golf cart must be more exercise than bowling.:spinny:
On another issue, can we get the spinning smiley renamed the Linda Blair smiley?
No it's likely some other factor. Gaining weight usually boils down to consuming too many calories, fat, or carbohydrates and not exercising enough. You cut out calories switching to diet pop, but have likely gained it somewhere else in your diet.
I lost about 30 pounds this past year(about 15% of my body weight). I did it by keeping a close track of what I ate and exercising more. For me exercise seemed to be the biggest thing that helped. 3 to 5 hour work outs doing interval training really seemed to melt the pounds off.
I drink maybe 2 or 3 diet pops a week(I'm a 2 cups a coffee morning person). It's hard to beat good old water.
Just found this interesting story.
Alcohol cravings tied to obesity - Health - Diet and nutrition - msnbc.com
I did cut way back on alcohol when I was working on losing.
Alcohol cravings tied to obesity - Health - Diet and nutrition - msnbc.com
I did cut way back on alcohol when I was working on losing.
. You did not account for the fat/lipids and sugar alcohols in HFCS.
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. I'm sure u believe it but an n of 1 is meaningless -- carl sagan has ur argument in the top 5 of his baloney science detection kit -- look it up as I'm on my blackberry.
You mean the astronomer guy that died 15 years ago? Yeah sorry I'm still going to go with my personal experience...it is possible it was something else but that was the only thing that was different during that time in my life and the only thing I eliminated to get back to normal over a period of days.
. Obviously your not a science major -- google "sagan baloney" and read, it will take you 10 minutes and learning is fun -- I'd point you to another geniuses thoughts on this but he is a quadriplegic and you'd likely find a way to diss him as well
I didn't dis him, I just fail to see why you're saying that my feeling strongly that it was diet pop that caused my symptoms is faulty logic just because it happened to me.
Or to quote your boy Sagan "Try not to get overly attached to a hypothesis just because it's yours."
Try applying this logic to your feelings on your boy Chizik next time you're blabbering about what a great job he did here.