Then all these one and dones just leave out of high school, and don't even go to college. Then we're basically right back to this thread topic, Devin Williams, a junior, decides to forego his senior season.
Devin Williams - WVU to the NBA
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Then all these one and dones just leave out of high school, and don't even go to college. Then we're basically right back to this thread topic, Devin Williams, a junior, decides to forego his senior season.
The ethics of that happening would be far better than what we have today, with kids filtering through an AAU 'system,' and spending 9 months at university. If they want to go to the profession out of high school, then let that happen. As for Williams, it would be far better for the game if all the kids that leave early stayed at least as long as he did. To argue otherwise is absurd.
You said "another good team torn apart by an NBA rule" and linked Jeff Goodman's news on Devon Williams hiring an agent. Knowing that Williams was a junior this last year, please explain the correlation.
Let me try again. I say the college game would be better if the NBA followed the MLB rule, i.e. college kids are not eligible for the draft until completing their third year in college.
Now, are you arguing that logic/premise?
How would the college game be better? Not taking either side just wondering what your reasoning is.
Totally agree with that, and I think we may see the rule changed to two and done in the next five years. The one thing the NBA is not going to give up though is letting kids go straight from high school to the draft.
Better players in college longer, better teams, better overall level of play, more marketable players.
Great players, like Georges Niang, Perry Ellis and Buddy Hield, would all stay in college and play out the string. This would make for better basketball quality and fan loyalty to both teams and players. Rather Andrew Wiggins, Michael Beasley, Kevin Durrant ply their trade in the pros after a too brief stay in college. Thus, the college game suffers.
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By most any measure, you are quite right.
http://www.statista.com/statistics/219645/ncaa-basketball-tournament-games-by-tv-ratings/
I think the college game is great right now. This past season was one of the best in a long time. Plenty of guys stay 3-4 years. I don't know why anyone would want to go back to the times when UCLA won the championship every year and only 20 or so teams qualified for the tournament.
Is the college game really suffering? I'd say this last season was great. Had a nice blend of great seniors with talented freshman & everyone in between. I think the college game is doing just fine right now.
Exactly. I'm not saying the one and dones don't effect the quality each year, but this past season is not one to argue they do. Ben Simmons, Skal Labisere, Diallo, Jeter, etc were all highly ranked, but had no effect on the college basketball season, while junior and seniors dominated.
For instance, I can't remember all the teams and players in the elite 8, but a couple underclassmen for Syracuse, who barely made the tournament, are the only underclassmen I can think of that are real difference makers for their team.
All the underclassmen leaving early have led to a big decline in the quality of the college game, there's no denying that. It's not because of the one and done rule but college basketball today is nowhere close to where it was late 80's-early 90's, when you had almost everyone staying three or four years. You just don't have the real stars in college basketball like you used to because all of those guys are gone after a year or two and you also don't have the great teams you used to see where you had future NBA talent playing together for several years.
Last year was one the best seasons I can remember in college basketball, more parity than ever, the tourney was filled with upsets, top 5 teams losing every single week. I'd say things have improved big time. I can't remember a year with no team as the obvious favorite. The current rule had a big impact on that. Don't get me wrong, making stay longer would be even better but I don't know how anyone (especially a big 12 fan) can complain about last year. Sounds like for whatever reason, he's associating KU with all one and done players and making it personal somehow.
Some of you must be youngsters to argue the way you do, that last year was the best ever. What? You're ISU fans. Reality is that the college game has fallen on hard times. All you have to do is look at TV ratings. It's remarkable to me that this is even an issue for debate.
http://www.statista.com/statistics/219645/ncaa-basketball-tournament-games-by-tv-ratings/
http://www.statista.com/statistics/219645/ncaa-basketball-tournament-games-by-tv-ratings/
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