Dalvin Cook = Whiny Baby

Yes, I brought it up because an ISU player is involved. This is an ISU message board, isn't it? Do other players complain to the media, sure. I didn't like it when Davante Adam's was ******** about targets after a win last week either.
Good point but most tend to worry about things that actually matter or have an effect on someone you like or care about.
 
Good point but most tend to worry about things that actually matter or have an effect on someone you like or care about.
Going to the media and complaining is a way for a player to put outside pressure on teammates, coaches, and the organization for something they want. It's completely selfish, isn't good for team chemistry, and affects the whole team. Is it that big of a deal? Probably not. They are professionals and deal with this kind of crap all the time. But it's still a teammate adding an additional distraction on to Breece's and everyone else's plate. So it does affect players I care about.

I'll turn your comment back on you. Why does my post bother you so much that you dumbed it and you felt the need to tell me to "get over it"? How did my post affect anyone you care about to the point you felt that was necessary?
 
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Even with his touches this year Cook has looked like garbage. Someone will probably take a chance on him and send away a 6th rounder for him. But I feel his career as starter is starting to diminish quick.
And running backs wonder why they aren't getting paid moar money
 
I was surprised Breece seems to be almost completely back to normal instantly after the surgery...in some early games it looked like they had him on a pitch count or he'd have even more yards.

Cook probably thought he was at least going to get some time to establish himself as "the guy" and then Breece just did his regular big chunk play thing every game right away.
Cook wanted to play with Rodgers, and had to figure it would take Breece at least half the season to recover from his knee injury, thereby giving him time to establish himself as the team's go too running back. Rodgers got hurt, Hall is leading the league on yards gained by attempt at 6.5 yards and Cook has been horrible for the team. The Jets Oline is not good, and Cook just does not have the speed that Breece has to hit the hole and get downfield.
The guy is only 28 but he is running like a back that is 34 years old.
 
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Cook wanted to play with Rodgers, and had to figure it would take Breece at least half the season to recover from his knee injury, thereby giving him time to establish himself as the team's go too running back. Rodgers got hurt, Hall is leading the league on yards gained by attempt at 6.5 yards and Cook has been horrible for the team. The Jets Oline is not good, and Cook just does not have the speed that Breece has to hit the hole and get downfield.
The guy is only 28 but he is running like a back that is 34 years old.
This is why running backs are devalued in the NFL. Vast majority of RB, even top caliber RBs, have a short shelf life
 
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Cook wanted to play with Rodgers, and had to figure it would take Breece at least half the season to recover from his knee injury, thereby giving him time to establish himself as the team's go too running back. Rodgers got hurt, Hall is leading the league on yards gained by attempt at 6.5 yards and Cook has been horrible for the team. The Jets Oline is not good, and Cook just does not have the speed that Breece has to hit the hole and get downfield.
The guy is only 28 but he is running like a back that is 34 years old.
If Saleh is to be believed, they pitched him on a worst case scenario and told him he may be sitting on the sidelines a lot and he still signed. It's not like they blew sunshine up his ass or anything. They told him this could happen.

 
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I wonder why that is? Not that it's been common but it certainly was more common in the past for backs to have longer careers.
Good question. I think the bigger picture is many offenses are not run orientated anymore. So why pay a RB $10M+ if the focus of the offense isn't on the RB? Many teams feel they can get similar RB production from players still on their rookie contracts. A 5 year RB veteran may have a half a step loss in speed, but that loss in speed may then put their skills on the same level as a younger RB who is being paid a fraction of the veteran price
 
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Going to the media and complaining is a way for a player to put outside pressure on teammates, coaches, and the organization for something they want. It's completely selfish, isn't good for team chemistry, and affects the whole team. Is it that big of a deal? Probably not. They are professionals and deal with this kind of crap all the time. But it's still a teammate adding an additional distraction on to Breece's and everyone else's plate. So it does affect players I care about.

I'll turn your comment back on you. Why does my post bother you so much that you dumbed it and you felt the need to tell me to "get over it"? How did my post affect anyone you care about to the point you felt that was necessary?
Breece doesn’t care about this as long he is getting the ball.
 
So you would be happy if a star athlete wasn't frustrated.

He didn't say he deserves more playing time, or that he's better that Breece or that the coaches are making the wrong choices.

If he wasn't frustrated about it, I wouldn't want him on my team at all.
It's bringing attention to yourself and taking away from the goal of a team, which is to be selfless and win, as a good teammate. I mean, that's what they generally say.
 
Look at it this way: your company hired you for a one year contract. You have that year to prove to the company and all other companies that your talents and skills are worthy of a large, multiyear contract starting next year. But your company doesn't put you in very many situations to showcase your talents/skills... in fact, it rarely occurs. You know your value has dropped significantly for next year and will be out a lot of money.

Would you just sit back and basically say "Oh Well" or try to be proactive to try to change companies this year to a company that is willing to showcase your talents/skills?
Rarely? He was getting the bulk of the carries early on. How many plays and games does the guy need in order to "establish himself?" Last year the analytics were saying how poorly Cook did, so his metrics were trending downward fast. So he hit that running back age wall very fast. Couple that in with Rodgers going down and the jets trying to figure the offense out under a different QB and Breece coming back, then yeah his role diminishes.
 
Rarely? He was getting the bulk of the carries early on. How many plays and games does the guy need in order to "establish himself?" Last year the analytics were saying how poorly Cook did, so his metrics were trending downward fast. So he hit that running back age wall very fast. Couple that in with Rodgers going down and the jets trying to figure the offense out under a different QB and Breece coming back, then yeah his role diminishes.
Yes, he has rarely been able to showcase his skills playing for the Jets.
 
It's bringing attention to yourself and taking away from the goal of a team, which is to be selfless and win, as a good teammate. I mean, that's what they generally say.

I'm not saying his response was ideal, but I've seen far whinier players.

He was asked directly about trade rumors. Most players would have replied in a similar way. A few would have replied in an incredible way and few would have been complete jackasses. Felt like Cook fell in that huge middle ground.

A few weeks ago Breece himself had quotes that were far more whiny.

I think it was after the Dallas game. "I only had four touches, that's why we struggled." Also said he & other backs could have done more to make the most of their opportunities. "We got down early and kind of abandoned the run."
 
Who knows better than us that Breece can do some elite things to compensate for not having the most dominant offensive line.

Cook probably just doesn't have that.

It is kind of crazy to think that Breece likely had better QB play at ISU than in the NFL. Who'd have thought that at the time?
 
Yep, and all the data says 28 is usually that wall when they all fall.

I actually watched more NFL as a kid and teen than I do now, and I remember Emmitt Smith just kept grinding up yards way into his 30s for what seemed like forever...but I wonder if that was a product of the times rather than some elite durability he had.
 

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