Cyclones RPI

Hot take alert... This is purely for discussion purposes but lets say Iowa misses the tourney this yer (they probably will) I could see Cook transferring out if they can't shore up their issues at G/PG.
I predicted that when he signed with them. I just can't see him wanting to stay 4 years in Fran's system.
 
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When Gessell and Woodbury were freshman, they were pretty solid. Then they didn't improve at all in 4 years. Who knows if that will be the case with the current group of Iowa Freshmen and Sophomores.
The development trend of Iowa through the season over the past 3-4 years has not been positive...I don't expect that trend to change with this group given that Fran hasn't changed the way he coaches...
 
The development trend of Iowa through the season over the past 3-4 years has not been positive...I don't expect that trend to change with this group given that Fran hasn't changed the way he coaches...
They have about 1 in every 4 or 5 players that develop well. Marble, White, Uthoff, Jok. Everyone else didn't improve at all, or very little.
 
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They have about 1 in every 4 or 5 players that develop well. Marble, White, Uthoff, Jok. Everyone else didn't improve at all, or very little.

It's called having a ceiling. It is funny how fast I've gone to thinking we might lose that game to thinking it'll be a total disappointment if we do.
 
When Gessell and Woodbury were freshman, they were pretty solid. Then they didn't improve at all in 4 years. Who knows if that will be the case with the current group of Iowa Freshmen and Sophomores.

I could see a lot of guys wanting out when the full nepotism kicks in next year.
 
Iowa's past several seasons have been pretty similar, in my opinion. Start out slow, develop into a pretty solid to good team midway into the season, and then fall off at the end of the year. The Uthoff, Jok, Gesell and Woodbury teams did this seemingly every year. Last year's team kinda did this too. I expect them to figure it out and be pretty competitive this year. They may not be tourney good, but they certainly won't be a doormat. They have too much talent.

However, based on what I've seen, Iowa State should win this game.
 
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Iowa's past several seasons have been pretty similar, in my opinion. Start out slow, develop into a pretty solid to good team midway into the season, and then fall off at the end of the year. The Uthoff, Jok, Gesell and Woodbury teams did this seemingly every year. Last year's team kinda did this too. I expect them to figure it out and be pretty competitive this year. They may not be tourney good, but they certainly won't be a doormat. They have too much talent.

However, based on what I've seen, Iowa State should win this game.

Not biting. FIFY...'could' win this game. Freshmen/Jok vs. Monte/Naz/Matt/Deonte and we know how that went. The Iowa/ISU game is a crapshoot, imo.
 
I know the RPI doesn't mean much this time of year, but it is exciting to see ISU listed at 30 in the CBS sports RPI: https://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/nitty-gritty-report

Crazy. I still feel this is not an NCAA Tournament team, but it was a ton of fun to watch them win 3 games on a neutral court against decent competition. They clearly improved a ton between games 2 and 3 and that, in itself, is enjoyable. I did not expect to even remotely be thinking this way after the Milwaukee game. WHAT IF this team gets on a great run and gets close to Tourney contention or hovering around the bubble later in the year...amazing to think that Milwaukee loss really could come back to bite us. A great problem to have, but I wish ISU could play them again.
I love how we’ve improved so much but man, thinking about that we lost to Milwaukee still makes me cringe
 
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Sometimes a wake up call can be a really good thing.

It could have provided motivation.

We also shouldn't overlook the impact of having Lard and Brase available since the Milwaukee game. No way to know if their presence would've made a difference between L and W there, but I can't imagine losing by 18 points at Hilton with them in heavy rotation.

Edit for addition: Lard/Brase overlapped with Prohm's decision to put NWB at primary PG, too, so both those things combine -- we're still talking small sample, but this season feels more promising than it did 3 weeks ago.
 
Noncon was better last year. But I don't think RPI really matters at this point, there will be huge swings throughout the noncon
 
Up to 18 today. Which will tank here playing a couple major drags on our numbers.

Part 2 of my first response: Almost a guarantee RPI/SOS will plunge a bit, key is to dispense with weak opponents. And there's a LOT of "weakies."

Current RPI of remaining non-con opponents:
Northern Illinois 309
Iowa 239
Alcorn State 260
vs. UNI 72 (1-2 vs. top 50)
UMES 179
---> Assessment: Ucky

Only "absorbable" loss would be UNI, but that's also the last opportunity to notch a top-100 before Big 12 play. (NIU and Iowa RPI ranks are likely to rise throughout season).
 
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Results to this point, way-too-early snapshot, using cyclones500 “Trend-Tracker” (™):

6 at Missouri (L)
42 vs. Boise (W)
80 UW-Milwaukee (L)
133 Western Illinois W)
212 vs. Tulsa (W)
293 vs. Appalachian State (W)

RPI: 10
SOS: 10
Home: 1-1
Road: 0-1
Neutral: 3-0
vs. RPI 1-50: 1-1
vs. RPI 51-100: 0-1
vs. RPI 101-200: 1-0
vs. RPI 201 and below: 2-0

One “quality” win. No damaging losses.
 
Part 2 of my first response: Almost a guarantee RPI/SOS will plunge a bit, key is to dispense with weak opponents. And there's a LOT of "weakies."

Current RPI of remaining non-con opponents:
Northern Illinois 309
Iowa 239
Alcorn State 260
vs. UNI 72 (1-2 vs. top 50)
UMES 179
---> Assessment: Ucky

Only "absorbable" loss would be UNI, but that's also the last opportunity to notch a top-100 before Big 12 play. (NIU and Iowa RPI ranks are likely to rise throughout season).

Thanks for doing this analysis..... but that is a stinky slate of RPIs for the upcoming opponents. Hopefully some of them can start winning. Also: don't forget Tennessee in January. That could be a good win / absorbable loss (but it's at home).
 
Results to this point, way-too-early snapshot, using cyclones500 “Trend-Tracker” (™):

6 at Missouri (L)
42 vs. Boise (W)
80 UW-Milwaukee (L)
133 Western Illinois W)
212 vs. Tulsa (W)
293 vs. Appalachian State (W)

RPI: 10
SOS: 10
Home: 1-1
Road: 0-1
Neutral: 3-0
vs. RPI 1-50: 1-1
vs. RPI 51-100: 0-1
vs. RPI 101-200: 1-0
vs. RPI 201 and below: 2-0

One “quality” win. No damaging losses.

Milwaukee will be. No way that RPI stays sub 100.
 

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