Yes, but if the university gets a good chunk of change out of it, it lessens the pain.
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Yes, but if the university gets a good chunk of change out of it, it lessens the pain.
There is absolutey zero proof that any of us have that would say TJ has the highest ceiling of all known candidates. Absolutely zero. Brad Underwood has compiled almost a .900 win percentage in 2 years. That's almost unheard of at ANY level. Give me a break dude.
We LET Fred have a low NBA buyout. We DID NOT allow the same with other NCAA jobs.
Underwood would have to be willing to sign a contract with a $5+ million dollar NCAA jobs buyout...and know that it's not just BS...it's GOING TO BE PAID...NOT NEGOTIATED.
IF he's willing to do that...then he's IMHO your guy (minus if Jeff H somehow got back in the mix).
Bill Self seems to get buy being an OSU grad that coaches at in conference rival KU.
I'm also guessing Underwood was trying to get the job when Webber got it...so he might not be opposed to showing how big of mistake that was.
Agree. Do you want to give him the opportunity with the great nucleus we have coming back, and then just let him use it to the advantage of K-State?
Because it's their job and they get paid a lot of money for it. If a coach somehow let their alma mater have their way in a game, that coach would be fired if it ever got out and many people would pass them over after that in the same way that even great coaches get passed over for merely "accidentally" texting a recruit. Most college coaches are professionals and know it's their job and their major repercussions for doing something weird.
What I was stating is that you have the same potential conflict as Fred had, meaning that we let Fred have a low NBA buy-out because we knew that's ultimately where he wanted to be. IF Underwood was the guy, you would have to decide if you would let a potential buy-out discussion get in the way.
I doubt if Underwood would sign a contract with us that had a 5 million dollar buyout if he goes to another NCAA school.
But I think ISU would need some kind of protection against him going to KSU in a year when that job opens. So maybe just a bigger buyout if he goes to another Big 12 team would work? I have no idea? Maybe just a buyout amount equal to one year of his salary at ISU?
Agreed, with Hoiberg he had the leverage to get the NBA buyout low. Here, if we offer the job to Underwood, it's going to be with a hefty buyout for at least the K-State job. I wouldn't mind seeing a higher buyout level specifically for that one job, or maybe (even better) for a college coaching job in the state of Kansas. If he tries to negotiate it down it's a red flag for JP and Leath.
If Underwood wouldn't sign a contract that had a bigger buyout in it for going to another Big 12 team, then I think JP would have to tell him that we're no longer interested IMO.
JP can propose whatever buyout terms he wants. Underwood just won't sign if he doesn't like them. If KSU is where he ultimately wants to be, how does having a higher B12 buyout sweeten the deal at all?
He gave us lots of good info without jeopardizing the chances of something really good happening for ISU. What more do ya want?
Then Iowa State moves on and Underwood stays at Stephen F. Austin. Pretty simple. Accept the high buyout and make big money at Iowa State or stay at Stephen F. Austin and make low money and take a chance on the K-State job opening up and hope that you get it.
Leaks, leaks and more leaks. Make it look like an extensive search. TJ gets the job and everyone is happy that they searched high and low. we have one year and then it will be Fred who, how his transfer strategy wasn't good for the long term health of the program, resentment that he didn't build it to sustain, etc. We need to win a lot and give the new guy some time. College basketball isn't worth 3-5 million. Save that money for the next football coach where the bills get paid. Welcome aboard TJ, the best candidate available for a small budget
Just shut up. If you don't want info, then don't come on here. Jeremy is giving us what he has heard, which most of us appreciate very much. But if he can't give some specifics because he feels it might jeopardize the search, then so be it.
I'd rather wait and be happily surprised by who we get, then to find out we lost out on a splash hire because it was leaked.
It likely wouldn't even get to the point of a buyout provision. JP and Leath aren't going to be hiring a guy if they even sniff he wants to be someplace else in a year, I don't care who he is. Underwood should stay at SFA if the KSU job is what he is after. It will open up rather soon!
Maybe he is the guy that has been told he isn't going to be considered, and that's the reason.
Maybe he is the guy that has been told he isn't going to be considered, and that's the reason.
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