In 2013 they won the West Division with a 10-6 record and everyone else in their division was at .500 or lower. Definitely a weaker division. With 3 other teams having better records in the East Division. Murray State did not win the Conference Tourney that year. And yet you were counting that as a Conference Championship. In 2014 pretty much the same thing. And you counted that as a Conference Championship as well.
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In 2013 they won the West Division with a 10-6 record and everyone else in their division was at .500 or lower. Definitely a weaker division. With 3 other teams having better records in the East Division. Murray State did not win the Conference Tourney that year. And yet you were counting that as a Conference Championship. In 2014 pretty much the same thing. And you counted that as a Conference Championship as well.
I posted about it in another thread but more as a joke. Guess I'm not surprised - he probably left a nice impact on ISU when we played his team.
Not one of the ones I heard, but he's an impressive guy with an impressive record. Seeing how he interacts with his kids makes me think that kids would want to play for him.
I think Moton is a great dude but not a great fit here.
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NC Central was 342nd in pace last year. With Underwood and Drew also interviewing, I'm wondering how much style of play is a factor.
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More importantly, how would players feel about it and adapt?
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Mike Jones @MikeWJones@TravisHines21 that royally sucks for fans if we play slow next year
In 2014 they went 13-3. And it's not ME counting it as a conference championship. It's their conference. I'm done bickering about this and making other people suffer reading through it though. Go Clones!
The last time we hired a mid-major Hilton Magic died. The last time we didn't we went to 4 straight NCAA tournaments. I'm OK with whatever Jaime does, but spare me the risk assessment.
They have good points. I think everyone on here is saying "Well, anybody could make them winners" yes, but what happens when you take a bunch of guys who were brought on to play an up tempo offense and stick them with a coach who only plays slow and methodically? People need to think about these things.
So basically you think that every mid major coach = Greg McDermott? Seems logical...
It has nothing to do with this. It's about hiring the right guy period. TJ might be that right guy. Moton might be that right guy. Bryce Drew might be that right guy.
A raise would be one thing. An extension will be another. No need to give anyone an extension next year.
Neat. Again, your excitement based-approval means nothing in excusing how illogical your views are.
Will a history lesson work? Probably more likely for you to comprehend.
Hilton died after Johnny. Yet, mid-major TF and LE had more success. Fred was not even a mid-major, and he sure as hell was not a P5, Altman type.
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Hilton has rocked with mid major coaches too. Not every P5 hire will be a Johnny Orr. Not every mid major hire will be a Greg McDermott. Not every inexperienced hire will be a Fred Hoiberg.
And every coach without HCing experience=Fred Hoiberg.
And Otz has more experience than Hoiberg, which makes him better.
Except once you get HCing experience, that goes away. And you are now worse because you aren't like Hoiberg enough.
Moton has turned the program around at NCCU, he's surely more qualified then Otz. Don't know much about him though, so not sure how he'd fit in here.
I'm not making the case that it does, but there's not much to pick at except lack of experience. I just have to assume if he gets the job then he's shown that he has a plan that fits Iowa State.
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