Clyburn to announce today

i love it how 3 people left on this board are still on board with Greggy.
bawbie
kg-cyclone
CIMD
hmmm.... THIS IS A CONSPIRACY!:jimlad:
But seriously, how the hell do we continue to recruit, i mean we are in the best shape since 10 years ago... hell maybe even better.
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The list is actually a little bit longer than that, keep counting and working on that list.:wink:
 
Is Ross Marsden still on campus?

Actually, as far as I know.. yes! He works for Cyclone Hockey. I had no idea he was still around before hearing that at the last home game for Hockey, so it was quite a shock to hear that name. Myself and my other old band members who were around then all gave each other the same shocked look.
 
i love it how 3 people left on this board are still on board with Greggy.
bawbie
kg-cyclone
CIMD

what have I ever said that makes you think "I'm with Greggy"?


I haven't said anything positive about MBB since the season was over, and all I said during the season was that it wasn't appropriate or productive to rip the coach or the team while they are still playing (and playing hard).

so if you are going to attack me, please post links to comments I've made, otherwise get the **** off my back.
 
Add me in...
Does he have all the answers -- NO, but...
We 'SHOULD' all support our coach...

A leader should only be supported if he/she deserves it. It is called democracy, and we have a right and obligation to question and challenge those in leadership if we do not believe they are performing in their constituents' best interests.
 
what have I ever said that makes you think "I'm with Greggy"?


I haven't said anything positive about MBB since the season was over, and all I said during the season was that it wasn't appropriate or productive to rip the coach or the team while they are still playing (and playing hard).

so if you are going to attack me, please post links to comments I've made, otherwise get the **** off my back.

Not attacking, sheesh, stating, i think that it's pretty well known you are a supporter of him, i am a supporter of the TEAM not the coach....
 
Not attacking, sheesh, stating, i think that it's pretty well known you are a supporter of him, i am a supporter of the TEAM not the coach....
and I'm telling you, I'm not a support of Coach McDermott.

I am a supporter of the team, and as such I argued against attacking any member of the team, including the coach, during the season. I kept saying "wait until the season is over to call for his head".

Since the season has been over, I don't believe I have said anything positive about Coach McDermott.

I'm also a supporter of rational, civil discussions, so I have defended kg when I feel people have been attacking him personally.

If you think I'm lying, PROVE IT. Otherwise, leave me the **** alone.
 
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A leader should only be supported if he/she deserves it. It is called democracy, and we have a right and obligation to question and challenge those in leadership if we do not believe they are performing in their constituents' best interests.

"Is you is, or is you ain't, my constituency?"

--Homer Stokes
 
its called having multiple alma maters dillweed. anyway, my being a fan of IU has nothing to do with my fanhood of ISU. I am an ISU fan first and foremost, and as a fan I am calling it as I see it. Saying that we 'backed off' Clyburn simply because he would prefer a redshirt is asinine logic. If Greg had any intention of building for the future, then what is wrong with taking a great player and letting him hone his game for a year as a redshirt? Unless of course Greg is planning once again to take flyers on a bunch players that will transfer/flunk out/wind up as Brister-style misses again. Great Strategy.

So you know, for a fact, that we did not back off. You are also in favor of signing a JUCO transfer that would redshirt next year. You would make a poor college basketball coach. You use 3 years worth of scholarships for 2 years of production. We need the production now if we are going after that position. Get a clue. You act as if you know that we did not back off of him. I don't know that we did, but I am also not posting about like a nitwit like I do know we did back off. I take CIMD and KG at their word when they say this stuff. I have nothing better to go on. My guess would be that you don't either. If you do, please share.
 
what have I ever said that makes you think "I'm with Greggy"?


I haven't said anything positive about MBB since the season was over, and all I said during the season was that it wasn't appropriate or productive to rip the coach or the team while they are still playing (and playing hard).

so if you are going to attack me, please post links to comments I've made, otherwise get the **** off my back.

Uh-huh.

I loved the way our guys played hard at OU against a bad and shorthanded team.

I loved the way that hard effort paid off with one conference win that wasn't against Nebraska or CU.

I really loved the pass off the knee on a fastbreak against Mizzou, and then the way nobody was smart enough to pressure the ball the whole way up the court. That right there was effort.

Seems we were not supposed to comment on how bad our bball program was during the season,players deserved our support. Now we are not supposed to talk about how bad our program is, it will hurt our recruiting.

Was there a two week window when the rage was appropriate? Or was it like a 5 day deal between our annual opening round Big12 tourney loss and the pathetic McD and JP "nobody is going anywhere" press conference?

After 4 years of horrible results, and the way certain people defend our coach when he has done nothing to earn such loyalty from actual ISU fans, other than take boatloads of our money, I am to the point where I actually either don't care about ISU basketball, or I want more failure, so that something gets done and one or two people are gone from ISU. I can't follow this horrible product, or get behind it, or want more of it, or hope that it will magically change just because it is a new season. Logic forbids it.

Every year our basketball glory fades a little more, and the memories of conference and tourney championships grow more distant. We are digging ourselves into a deeper hole also. I can't give the blind loyalty anymore. I am just going to laugh at how bad things have gotten, and feel sorry for those foolish enough to think that things will improve without drastic changes.
 
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You use 3 years worth of scholarships for 2 years of production. We need the production now if we are going after that position. Get a clue.

Get a clue? Since the Greg regime began, how often have we gotten MORE than 2 years of production from any player that we have given a scholarship to? Compare that with how often we have had busts, transfers, etc. Of course I do not know for certain what happened with the recruitment of Clyburn, but history would indicate that backing off is not correct. And taking Greg's nephew's word on something is risky since he has zero interest in telling it how it really is, and every reason to spin things in a greg-favorable light.
 
and I'm telling you, I'm not a support of Coach McDermott.

I am a supporter of the team, and as such I argued against attacking any member of the team, including the coach, during the season. I kept saying "wait until the season is over to call for his head".

Since the season has been over, I don't believe I have said anything positive about Coach McDermott.

I'm also a supporter of rational, civil discussions, so I have defended kg when I feel people have been attacking him personally.

If you think I'm lying, PROVE IT. Otherwise, leave me the **** alone.

Quite the juxtapositon you have there in back to back statements. I wonder if the irony is lost on you?
 
Get a clue? Since the Greg regime began, how often have we gotten MORE than 2 years of production from any player that we have given a scholarship to? Compare that with how often we have had busts, transfers, etc. Of course I do not know for certain what happened with the recruitment of Clyburn, but history would indicate that backing off is not correct. And taking Greg's nephew's word on something is risky since he has zero interest in telling it how it really is, and every reason to spin things in a greg-favorable light.

What history? How does any history correlate to the recruitment of Clyburn? Greg doesn't want someone for two and three years down the road. he needs them next year. He knows he has to win next year. He cant afford to take a guy who will not contribute instead of some other possibility that could.
 
I also don't understand the logic of banking a scholarship rather than giving it to a JUCO who wanted to redshirt. I'm not understanding the numerical logic behind that. Seems like "Bank" and "Redshirt" are both going to score zero points next year. At least with a redshirt you have a guy with a year of learning in the system who is ready to play the following year.

PS - Wasn't Horton a JUCO redshirt.
 
Uh-huh.

I loved the way our guys played hard at OU against a bad and shorthanded team.

I loved the way that hard effort paid off with one conference win that wasn't against Nebraska or CU.

I really loved the pass off the knee on a fastbreak against Mizzou, and then the way nobody was smart enough to pressure the ball the whole way up the court. That right there was effort.

Seems we were not supposed to comment on how bad our bball program was during the season,players deserved our support. Now we are not supposed to talk about how bad our program is, it will hurt our recruiting.

Was there a two week window when the rage was appropriate? Or was it like a 5 day deal between our annual opening round Big12 tourney loss and the pathetic McD and JP "nobody is going anywhere" press conference?

After 4 years of horrible results, and the way certain people defend our coach when he has done nothing to earn such loyalty from actual ISU fans, other than take boatloads of our money, I am to the point where I actually either don't care about ISU basketball, or I want more failure, so that something gets done and one or two people are gone from ISU. I can't follow this horrible product, or get behind it, or want more of it, or hope that it will magically change just because it is a new season. Logic forbids it.

Every year our basketball glory fades a little more, and the memories of conference and tourney championships grow more distant. We are digging ourselves into a deeper hole also. I can't give the blind loyalty anymore. I am just going to laugh at how bad things have gotten, and feel sorry for those foolish enough to think that things will improve without drastic changes.
You left the brilliant last minute of the UNI game out.
 
I also don't understand the logic of banking a scholarship rather than giving it to a JUCO who wanted to redshirt. I'm not understanding the numerical logic behind that. Seems like "Bank" and "Redshirt" are both going to score zero points next year. At least with a redshirt you have a guy with a year of learning in the system who is ready to play the following year.

PS - Wasn't Horton a JUCO redshirt.

Neither do I in that situation. I would rather have the guy redshirting if I have to pick one of those. If there are guys who want to be here, we should not be banking scholarships now IMO.
 
Add me in...
Does he have all the answers -- NO, but...
We 'SHOULD' all support our coach...

I assume you felt the same way about Wayne Morgan and Larry Eustachy, to significantly more successful coaches at Iowa State who were fired?
 

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