Bubu
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HGPuck
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This is correct, although one correction, he was never kicked out of school but was just not allowed to participate on the basketball team until the court system stepped in. The only potential case he would have against the University is if the process that ultimately led to him being off the basketball team was conducted in a way that is different from the typical written protocol for that type of situation or if something was said or written publicly by a University official that was defamatory against him.
There were a couple times we could have used an extra guard last year when we had foul problems, needed a change of pace, had some injuries, had some bad shooting. The media sideshow on Bubu also did not help the team. Luckily, things improved at the end.
This is my biggest problem with the situation. Based on the evidence we know I would be 90% sure at least that this was a false report. It makes it much harder to find and prosecute actual cases.
It is also important that people who just regret sex don't report it as an assault. As long as you were able to make a choice you are responsible.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. From what I remember from following the different stages, every time this case has come before judges or the legal system, the findings were in Bubu's favor. It is only the non-judicial entities (ISU administration and the BoR) that have found in favor of the accuser.
Ah, the mighty class of 2009:
This program has come a llllllllllooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggg way!
Outside of Bubu who are they? I seriously don't know and am too lazy to look it up.
Good for Bubu... I support him 100%. Rape is such a big deal that I agree with prior posters in that accusing an innocent person of rape is as significant as rape itself. I hope those responsible for the false accusations are held to the harshest of penalties which in my opinion should include jail and significant restitution to Bubu. I also think ISU administration should make a public statement clearing him of any wrong doings. They can state they took the conservative route and the actions were warranted given the allegations but that owe that to help this young innocent person move on with his life.
Do you honestly think an AD and university president would go as far as they did in trying to keep Bubu away from their athletic programs if the evidence presented to them in any possible way indicated that Bubu was innocent?
The fact that he is now turning around and suing this girl is just disgusting.
And yet, every time the case was brought before IMPARTIAL adjudicators, they found in favor of Bubu.
If a woman falsely accused you of rape, would you smile and say "thank you ma'am, may I have another?" or would you fight to restore your battered reputation by whatever means are at your disposal?
CycloneErik
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There are so many assumption here that aren't fair to anybody.
There's no reason that Leath would not be impartial. He wouldn't have any built-in reason to get rid of Bubu. He was only involved once the case was appealed into his jurisdiction.
Bubu hasn't been found innocent or guilty by any court of law. I get that the lack of a guilty verdict or prosecution is getting you to the words "falsely accused," but that isn't proven either. This could simply be a bully tactic on Bubu's part to force people to go his direction.
The best course for everyone would be to move along. I can't imagine Bubu stands to gain a lot of money out of this lawsuit. This will be a nice mess, though, and we can keep having Bubu threads. I guess that's nice.
And yes, I hate myself for succumbing and posting in this discussion.
Haha oh you're serious? On what grounds? He has absolutely no case against the school, leath, or the ad.
If nothing else, a ruling in his favor in a civil suit would help him out regardless of any money involved.
We may find out. BuBu kept his mouth shut while the girl drug his name thru the mud by filing charges and continuing to hurt his basketball career and reputation thru the university process. Leath and JP certainly added to it with their head shaking statements to the media regarding the judges decision and BuBu. I'm no lawyer but it would seem possible all 3 could have exposure to defamation suits. This could get very interesting.
I respect your opinion Erik, but I'm sorry...I just don't share it.
I didn't say they found him guilty or innocent. I said that all of the legal rulings were in his favor...the dropped charges, the finding of no basis for conduct charges by the administrative judge, and the stay issued by the appeals judge were all favorable to Bubu and the case he presented.
There is no reason to assume President Leath WAS impartial. There is no reason to assume that the prosecutors that dropped the charges, the administrative judge that President Leath overrulled, or the judge that heard Bubu's appeal after the BoR rubber stamped President Leath's decision were NOT impartial.
One could also consider it to be a bullying tactic to continue to make accusations after one has been exposed as a liar. I don't think he's looking for money. I think he's looking to clear his name. He could have spent the last two years running this girl's name through the mud. He did not.
If someone falsified evidence against me with the consequence being a criminal conviction, darned right I'd sue. (And that has nothing with me being an attorney.)
Go ahead and put your blind faith in the administration. However, those people are political entities. I prefer to put my faith in legal professionals such as the county attorney and judge who did a thorough investigation, including questioning witnesses. The administration reviewed second hand evidence.
BuBu's family has spent a ton of money for legal costs. Trying to recover some or all of that and further clearing his name is quite a big incentive to see this thru.
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