Bowl Situation Thread

[SvrWxCy]

You said there are 8 bubble teams. The extra teams from the Sun Belt, and MAC, don't have a chance. IMO, ISU is going to pick up an at large game at the very worst. BIG Win over the #2 team that was watched by everyone and a decent fan following will ensure that the Clones get a bid from a Big 12 bowl or one of the Bowls that couldn't get a Conference game tie-in.

There are 8 bubble teams when it concerns being bowl eligible, I make no indication as to whether they will actually be in a bowl.

Personally I have no doubt that Iowa State will be in a bowl game and it will likely not be the last team picked out of Big 12 either...

 

[cyfan15]

You said there are 8 bubble teams. The extra teams from the Sun Belt, and MAC, don't have a chance. IMO, ISU is going to pick up an at large game at the very worst. BIG Win over the #2 team that was watched by everyone and a decent fan following will ensure that the Clones get a bid from a Big 12 bowl or one of the Bowls that couldn't get a Conference game tie-in.

The MAC has back-up spots available. If the TicketCity, BBVA Compass, New Mexico, Beef'O'Brady's, or Kraft Fight Hunger bowls have an opening, they have to take a MAC team if one is available.

 

[LindenCy]

Its not like this is something new. There have been tons of bowls for a long time now. Complaints about this are beginning to enter 'we landed on the moon' territory.

Eh, if a wart itches it itches, no matter how long it's been there. :smile:

 

[SvrWxCy]

Air Force is up 38-14 entering the 4th quarter; looks like they'll make it 5 teams from Mtn West w/ only 4 tie-ins guaranteed...

Ole Miss up 21-0 at half & looks like they'll secure up the 9th SEC spot...

 

[Stormin]

Assuming that ND takes one of the Big East bowls, there will be 3 at-large spots and 3 at-large teams form AQ conferences. Potentially ISU and 2 Big 10 teams (Illinois, Purdue, or Northwestern).

Illinois will not get picked with 6 straight losses including the last one to Minnesota. God awful team. Take your pick between Purdue and Northwestern. The other probably stays home. ND will get a bowl.....guaranteed. Could they get Gator?

 

[SvrWxCy]

Updated through 7:45pm

70 Available Spots for Bowl Eligible Teams

Total Teams Currently Eligible: 70

Bubble Teams: 7


Conference Breakdown (Eligible Teams & Bubbles in Italic w/ game opp)

ACC (8 eligible/9 tie-ins) - Virginia Tech, Clemson, Virginia, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Wake Forest, North Carolina State & North Carolina

Big XII (8 eligible/7 tie-ins) - Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, K-State, Baylor, Mizzou, Texas, aTm, Iowa State, Texas Tech losing 24-21 vs Baylor

B1G (10 eligible/8 tie-ins) - Mich State, Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa, Northwestern, Penn State, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Illinois, Purdue

Big East (4 eligible/6 tie-ins) - Louisville, Cincy, West Virginia, Rutgers, Pittsburgh (vs Syracuse on 10/3), Syracuse (vs Pittsburgh on 10/3), South Florida (vs West Virginia on 10/3), UConn (vs Cincy on 10/3)

Independents - BYU (Armed Forces Bowl) & Notre Dame (Likely pick-up 1 of Big East tie-ins)

Pac 12 (7 eligible/7 tie-ins) - Stanford, Oregon, Washington, California, Arizona State, Utah, UCLA (some discrepancy here w/ poss 6-7 record after Pac 12 championship)

C-USA (5 eligible/7 tie-ins) - Southern Miss, Houston, Tulsa, SMU, Marshall

MWC (4 eligible/4 tie-ins) - TCU, Boise State, Wyoming, San Diego State, Air Force

MAC (6 eligible/4 tie-ins) - Ohio, Temple, N Illinois, Toledo, W Michigan, Ball State

SEC (8 eligible/9 tie-ins) - Georgia, South Carolina, Florida, LSU, Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State (winning over Ole Miss 28-0 in 3rd)

Sun Belt (4 eligible/2 tie-ins) - Arkansas State, W Kentucky, Louisiana-Lafeyette, Florida Intl

WAC (3 eligible/3 tie-ins) - Louisiana Tech, Nevada, Utah State, Hawaii (must win both vs Tulane (10pm tonight) & vs BYU (10/3)

 

[ISUcy08]

70 teams go to a bowl.

Today, 70 teams are eligible.

7 are on the bubble:

ACC- All in or out.

Big XII- Texas Tech 5-6. Only has Baylor left.

B1G- All in or out.

Big East-
-Pitt 5-6, Cuse left. Beats Cuse @ home.
-Cuse 5-6, Pitt left. Loses @ Pitt.
-South Florida 5-6, WV left.
-UConn 5-6, Cincy left.

Independents- All already in or out.

Pac 12- UCLA plays 13, must win one more to get eligible.

C-USA-
All in or out.

MWC- All in or out.

MAC-
-All either in or out.

SEC-
All in or out.

Sun Belt- All already in or out.

WAC-
-Hawaii 5-6. Play 13 games. Must win last 2. Doubt it will happen.


Only 5 more teams could possibly get eligible. That's 77 possible, with 70 spots. MAC has 6 teams eligible, but no way they get that many in.


Just kind of a running tally to help keep track.

(No USC, now no Miami)


Updated my first post.

.... And, yes I know ISU will go to a bowl. I just think it's fun to keep track.

 

[acrozier22]

It's really not about how many teams are eligible. It's more about which conferences can fill all of their bowl tie ins.

For instance, the Big East has six agreements. They will have five teams eligible (barring an upset). Meaning the Beef O'Brady bowl has the ability to get an at large team. ISU would be a pretty nice pick up.

Same thing with C-USA. They have five bowl eligible teams and six bowl agreements. Right now, the Military bowl has the ability to grab an at large team.

Then you have the independent agreements. With Navy not being bowl eligible, it opens the Kraft Hunger bowl in San Fran. Same thing with Army and the Military bowl.

All in all, it doesn't matter how many eligible teams there are. What does matter is how good ISU looks to the at large bowls. I think we would have a great shot. Here are the major teams we would have to battle for a spot:

Big Ten: Illinois
MWC: Air Force (they would be attractive for the Military Bowl or San Fran Bowl)
Big East: South Florida (if they get eligible they would be a good fit for the Beef O'Brady bowl)
Big 12: Tech (if they get eligible)

I like our chances. Actually, I think we go to a Big 12 bowl.

 

[cyfan15]

With all the bowls with secondary MAC affiliations, the MAC will almost certainly get all six teams in bowl games.

 

[alarson]

What's with all these bowls having secondary affiliations and us not having some sort of secondary affiliations to cover ourselves when we have more teams than spots?

 

[cyfan15]

What's with all these bowls having secondary affiliations and us not having some sort of secondary affiliations to cover ourselves when we have more teams than spots?

Big 12 leadership hasn't been very good the past few years.

 

[CyForPresident]

What's with all these bowls having secondary affiliations and us not having some sort of secondary affiliations to cover ourselves when we have more teams than spots?

We used to have an 8th bid, but we lost it when we went from 12 schools to 10. Even if we don't make a Big 12 bowl, we should be a lock for the Military Bowl. It was supposed to be the 8th bid until the deflections and the Big 12 probably has the inside track for it with it needing an at-large team.

 

[alarson]

We used to have an 8th bid, but we lost it when we went from 12 schools to 10. Even if we don't make a Big 12 bowl, we should be a lock for the Military Bowl. It was supposed to be the 8th bid until the deflections and the Big 12 probably has the inside track for it with it needing an at-large team.

How did we 'lose it', exactly i wonder. Its not like we couldnt fit in 8 teams (as this year is showing) and its not uncommon for bcs conferences to have an extra bowl slot.

We need to get on getting another bowl to our tie-ins, preferably in florida somewhere.

 

[CyForPresident]

How did we 'lose it', exactly i wonder. Its not like we couldnt fit in 8 teams (as this year is showing) and its not uncommon for bcs conferences to have an extra bowl slot.

We need to get on getting another bowl to our tie-ins, preferably in florida somewhere.

Like you said, the Big 12 leadership has been terrible. I imagine there was concern over the Big 12's ability to fill 8 spots with only 10 teams.

 

[Cylone999]

For instance, the Big East has six agreements. They will have five teams eligible (barring an upset). Meaning the Beef O'Brady bowl has the ability to get an at large team. ISU would be a pretty nice pick up.

Except that the Big East bowls can select Notre Dame. Five teams + ND for 6 slots means no at-large for Beef O'Brady.

 

[Cylone999]

With all the bowls with secondary MAC affiliations, the MAC will almost certainly get all six teams in bowl games.

But are those bowls required to take a MAC team? Take, for example, the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl. With Army or an ACC #9 not available, the website says this:

We still have two backup options--WAC No. 4 and MAC No. 5--that may be available to us, as well as new opportunities that could arise from other conferences with extra bowl-eligible teams. In the WAC, Louisiana Tech (7-4) and Nevada (6-4) have achieved eligibility, while Hawaii (5-6) can qualify by beating Tulane and BYU, and Utah State (5-5) can get in by beating either Nevada or New Mexico State. The MAC has already qualified six teams and will be busy filling bowl vacancies throughout the country. Needless to say, there will be lots of cajoling, bargaining and swapping right up to selection Sunday (Dec. 4).

If they were required to take MAC #5, why would he even bring up possible at-large opportunities? Sounds to me like MAC #5 (maybe Western Michigan?) would be the last resort if they can't come up with anything better.

 

[acrozier22]

Has anyone considered the possibility of Kansas State taking a BCS spot if they win next week? They are ranked #11 in the BCS and could be in the top 8 before it's all said and done. I don't think a BCS bowl will pick up KSU over a program like Michigan but you never know. It's still a possibility.

 

[GoldenBear]

But are those bowls required to take a MAC team? Take, for example, the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl. With Army or an ACC #9 not available, the website says this:



If they were required to take MAC #5, why would he even bring up possible at-large opportunities? Sounds to me like MAC #5 (maybe Western Michigan?) would be the last resort if they can't come up with anything better.

Anyone to think for a minute that ISU woud be shunned for a bowl to this is crazy! Two wins against top 25 at this time. ESPN OSU game that has gone viral and nothing but kudos for the program.

We will be just fine. My guess is San Diego or Houston

 

[cyspy]

The big problem right now is that there may be as many as 75 to 77 teams bowl eligible,someone is going to be left out.

 

[HILLCYD]

7 win teams don't get left out....which we will be after next weekend.