Bowl Situation Thread

[Mizzoulander]

Honestly...take the Big12 hate out of the equation for this one and think...if a team was leaving your conference because they were fed up with your conference, would you put that team in one of your conference's bowl affiliations if you didn't have to? Away from other teams that are staying with your conference? Of course you wouldn't. Why does the Big12 owe Missouri any favors at this point in time?

Same with Texas A&M...and they are only jumping a team because of good business in Texas and that lower-tier bowl wants to maximize their profits. If the Big12 had a lower tier bowl tie in with a bowl in Missouri...the Natty Light Drinky Pinkel Columbia-Crap Bowl...then I would expect Missouri to receive the same treatment as Texas A&M in that situation.

I would TOTALLY travel for that bowl. :smile:

I am not at all surprised that the Big 12 would pressure its partners to exclude Mizzou. Look what happened to Nebraska last year. The league didn't do MU any favors when we were a "proud member of the Big 12"...why would they now? I suppose the B12 will still want their cut of bowl payout, though.

Even moreso this year, bowl "prestige," payouts, location, day and time, TV coverage, etc. do not matter to me at all. I just want the 8th win. Nothing more.

 

[Mizzoulander]

NO bowl scouts at Mizzou's game?! I think it's safe to say ISU WILL be in a Big 12 affiliated bowl.

"Start spread-in' the newssss..."

 

[chuckd4735]

The Big 12 probably wouldn't benefit from letting Mizzou slip to a non-affiliated Big 12 bowl. Let ISU be that team. Simply put, ISU will be more attractive than Mizzou, and would probably be placed in a better non-affiliated bowl than Mizzou, which would mean more money for the Big 12.

 

[CrossCyed]

I would TOTALLY travel for that bowl. :smile:

I am not at all surprised that the Big 12 would pressure its partners to exclude Mizzou. Look what happened to Nebraska last year. The league didn't do MU any favors when we were a "proud member of the Big 12"...why would they now? I suppose the B12 will still want their cut of bowl payout, though.

Even moreso this year, bowl "prestige," payouts, location, day and time, TV coverage, etc. do not matter to me at all. I just want the 8th win. Nothing more.

It's not like Dan Beebe said after ISU was picked over Mizzou that they needed to re-evaluate how they do things.

Missouri, whose athletic department officials as late as Tuesday thought the Tigers would be invited to play in the Insight Bowl, is preparing for the worst: Selection to play in the Dec. 31 Texas Bowl in Houston.

The Texas Bowl has the final spot in the pecking order of eight bowl games contracted by the Big 12 Conference.

“This isn’t over,” Big 12 Commissioner Dan Beebe said Wednesday afternoon in a telephone interview with The Kansas City Star.

“I know (Missouri athletic director) Mike Alden and the Missouri folks have made a tremendous case to all the bowls they might be selected to," Beebe said. "I don’t know that Missouri could do a better job than they are doing.”

And, Beebe added, he shares the concern of MU officials that the Tigers might be passed over for the Insight Bowl bid by a 6-6 Iowa State team.

“I am concerned about a bowl that would select a team that has two less wins and was beaten by that team head to head.”

Unfortunately, that is just the scenario Missouri officials have come to fear.
“We’re hearing that the Insight Bowl may prefer to invite Iowa State than us,” said Chad Moller, the director of media relations for MU athletics. “The last time they played there they brought 20,000 fans.”

So, 6-6 Iowa State in the Insight Bowl, and 6-6 Texas A&M in the Independence Bowl, and 8-4 Missouri in Texas bowl?

“That’s what we’re hearing, too,” Zac Emmons, a spokesman for the Houston-based Texas Bowl, told The Star on Wednesday afternoon.

Alden was obviously not happy about the situation. However, for public consumption at least, Alden repeated the Big 12 Conference party line.

“The bowls can invite any team they choose,” Alden said. “We’ll be excited to play in any bowl we are invited to.”

However, Alden said he had spoken several times with Beebe on the matter and that Missouri would continue to do everything within the rules of the Big 12 Conference to inform bowl officials of the pluses of inviting Missouri.

BUT NO THE BIG 12 THEY WERE ALL LIKE **** MISSOURI

 

[DesertClone1]

Well Missery, maybe if you actually travel to games, you wouldn't be in that situation. **** Missery! enjoy getting your *** wiped in the SEC

 

[chuckd4735]

I would TOTALLY travel for that bowl. :smile:

I am not at all surprised that the Big 12 would pressure its partners to exclude Mizzou. Look what happened to Nebraska last year. The league didn't do MU any favors when we were a "proud member of the Big 12"...why would they now? I suppose the B12 will still want their cut of bowl payout, though.

Even moreso this year, bowl "prestige," payouts, location, day and time, TV coverage, etc. do not matter to me at all. I just want the 8th win. Nothing more.

Nebraska got screwed from the Insight because the Big 12 didn't want them playing Iowa 6 months before they were to join the Big 10...the whole game would of been a Big 10 promotion. The only game the Big 12 has with the SEC is the Cotton Bowl, and its safe to say Mizzou and aTm wont be considered for that game (and Mizzou probably wont ever again be considered for that, or any, bowl game). That being said, I highly doubt the Big 12 tries to screw Mizzou or aTm this season, there is really no reason to do it.

 

[proisu]

Here's the projections from the Star-Telegram in Ft. Worth, who probably covers the Big 12 much more closely than any of the national media:

Big 12 bowl projections
A looks at projected bowl matchups involving Big 12 teams:
Fiesta: Oklahoma/Oklahoma State winner vs. BCS at-large
Cotton: Kansas State vs. SEC
Alamo: Texas/Baylor winner vs. Pac-12
Insight: Oklahoma/OSU loser vs. Big Ten
Holiday: Texas/Baylor loser vs. Pac-12
Meineke (Texas): Texas A&M vs. Big Ten
Pinstripe: Iowa State vs. Big East
Note: Expect SEC-bound Missouri (7-5) to be passed along to a bowl with no Big 12 affiliation. No bowl scouts attended Mizzou's 24-10 victory over Kansas.
​

Read more: Big 12 Insider: Baylor fans have chance to show team they care | Baylor Bears | Sports News a...

Most interesting thing to me...NO bowl scouts? When you take this with Pinkel's comments yesterday, about "not expecting the Big 12 to do Missouri any favors," I think the fix is in, and the Cyclones are bound for the Bronx.

The Big 12 is determined to prove to Tiger fans that Missouri made the right decision.

If ur girlfriend cheats on u and says she is leavin, you dont take her to the dance. You might take to back of your car and give her one last ****. But no dance.

 

[nickcyv]

When ISU jumped Mizzou to go the Insight didn't they get crushed by Navy or someone anyway?

 

[DesertClone1]

When ISU jumped Mizzou to go the Insight didn't they get crushed by Navy or someone anyway?

34-13.

 

[CycloneWarning]

NO bowl scouts at Mizzou's game?! I think it's safe to say ISU WILL be in a Big 12 affiliated bowl.

That is hilarious. No bowl representatives? Ha ha. Talk about irrelevance.

On the other hand, sucks for ISU to "get" the last Big 12 bowl slot of the Pinstripe. I would rather they let MU have it and we go to Dallas.

 

[cyclonepower]

i may be the only one, it wouldnt be my first choice, but I wouldnt mind the Pinstripe Bowl

 

[cyatheart]

Nebraska got screwed from the Insight because the Big 12 didn't want them playing Iowa 6 months before they were to join the Big 10...the whole game would of been a Big 10 promotion. The only game the Big 12 has with the SEC is the Cotton Bowl, and its safe to say Mizzou and aTm wont be considered for that game (and Mizzou probably wont ever again be considered for that, or any, bowl game). That being said, I highly doubt the Big 12 tries to screw Mizzou or aTm this season, there is really no reason to do it.

Why do they need a reason? I would imagine a lot of people in the B12 wouldn't mind screwing A and M or Mizzou. Why let a former member go to a better bowl game for no reason if they can do anything about it?

 

[ISUcy08]

That is hilarious. No bowl representatives? Ha ha. Talk about irrelevance.

On the other hand, sucks for ISU to "get" the last Big 12 bowl slot of the Pinstripe. I would rather they let MU have it and we go to Dallas.

I would rather have that too. But I don't want to be picky, because at the beginning of the season I gave us no chance to go to a bowl. But I would rather have it in Texas for travel and recruits.

But no bowl reps at Mizzou's game..... none....in their last game... that's pretty telling.

 

[ty4cy90]

2nd...

 

[Mizzoulander]

Nebraska got screwed from the Insight because the Big 12 didn't want them playing Iowa 6 months before they were to join the Big 10...the whole game would of been a Big 10 promotion. The only game the Big 12 has with the SEC is the Cotton Bowl, and its safe to say Mizzou and aTm wont be considered for that game (and Mizzou probably wont ever again be considered for that, or any, bowl game). That being said, I highly doubt the Big 12 tries to screw Mizzou or aTm this season, there is really no reason to do it.

It wasn't just the Insight...both the Cotton and Alamo passed up NU for teams the Huskers beat or had inferior records. Maybe NU just doesn't "travel well." :smile:

Did you notice how in the S-T projections, it didn't matter if ISU beats K-State this weekend? The other bowls are contigent on who wins between OU-OKSt and UT-Baylor. But according to this, a 7-5 ISU team, with 3 wins over ranked teams, would still get shipped out to play Rutgers in NY. Behind Texas and 6-6 TAMU (who's leaving). The same thing could happen to KSU, if they get dropped to the Alamo. It's happened before to nearly all the old North teams.

And maybe you're okay with that. But eventually, Rhoads is going to keep improving his team and with a better W-L record you'll want to play for bigger stakes (MUCH bigger than the Holiday Bowl!) And then you'll find out how well the Big 12 serves its members.

 

[chuckd4735]

Why do they need a reason? I would imagine a lot of people in the B12 wouldn't mind screwing A and M or Mizzou. Why let a former member go to a better bowl game for no reason if they can do anything about it?

How does it screw them? What makes them better bowl games? All the bowl payout goes into one pot, and is distributed evenly amongst all the Big 12 teams. When you compare the Pinstripe to the other bowls games projected to take the 8th Big 12 team, there is really no difference in any of them besides location.

 

[chuckd4735]

It wasn't just the Insight...both the Cotton and Alamo passed up NU for teams the Huskers beat or had inferior records. Maybe NU just doesn't "travel well." :smile:

Did you notice how in the S-T projections, it didn't matter if ISU beats K-State this weekend? The other bowls are contigent on who wins between OU-OKSt and UT-Baylor. But according to this, a 7-5 ISU team, with 3 wins over ranked teams, would still get shipped out to play Rutgers in NY. Behind Texas and 6-6 TAMU (who's leaving). The same thing could happen to KSU, if they get dropped to the Alamo. It's happened before to nearly all the old North teams.

And maybe you're okay with that. But eventually, Rhoads is going to keep improving his team and with a better W-L record you'll want to play for bigger stakes (MUCH bigger than the Holiday Bowl!) And then you'll find out how well the Big 12 serves its members.

The Cotton Bowl took aTm, who had the same record as Nebraska and beat Nebraska 9-6. The Alamo took Oklahoma State who had a better record than Nebraska.

 

[Clonefan94]

It wasn't just the Insight...both the Cotton and Alamo passed up NU for teams the Huskers beat or had inferior records. Maybe NU just doesn't "travel well." :smile:

Did you notice how in the S-T projections, it didn't matter if ISU beats K-State this weekend? The other bowls are contigent on who wins between OU-OKSt and UT-Baylor. But according to this, a 7-5 ISU team, with 3 wins over ranked teams, would still get shipped out to play Rutgers in NY. Behind Texas and 6-6 TAMU (who's leaving). The same thing could happen to KSU, if they get dropped to the Alamo. It's happened before to nearly all the old North teams.

And maybe you're okay with that. But eventually, Rhoads is going to keep improving his team and with a better W-L record you'll want to play for bigger stakes (MUCH bigger than the Holiday Bowl!) And then you'll find out how well the Big 12 serves its members.

Oh yeah, you guys have finally convinced me. After hearing Nebraska, aTm, and now Mizzou, I think we have to believe it. Might as well get those applications to the SEC and the Big 10 in the mail. Oh, wait, that's right, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER OPTIONS! Please, stop trying to convince us how good of an idea this is and how ISU better wake up to the reality. We know the reality, but the greater reality is it's the Big XII or bust for ISU. The SEC wants you, go there and tell them your sob stories.

 

[cyhiphopp]

It wasn't just the Insight...both the Cotton and Alamo passed up NU for teams the Huskers beat or had inferior records. Maybe NU just doesn't "travel well." :smile:

Did you notice how in the S-T projections, it didn't matter if ISU beats K-State this weekend? The other bowls are contigent on who wins between OU-OKSt and UT-Baylor. But according to this, a 7-5 ISU team, with 3 wins over ranked teams, would still get shipped out to play Rutgers in NY. Behind Texas and 6-6 TAMU (who's leaving). The same thing could happen to KSU, if they get dropped to the Alamo. It's happened before to nearly all the old North teams.

And maybe you're okay with that. But eventually, Rhoads is going to keep improving his team and with a better W-L record you'll want to play for bigger stakes (MUCH bigger than the Holiday Bowl!) And then you'll find out how well the Big 12 serves its members.

The thing is, when CPR improves our record, ISU will still be known as having a fan base that travels extremely well. If, in the near future ISU is up for say, the Alamo bowl, ISU fans would turn out in droves. This is something MU couldn't guarantee, which is why the Insight overlooked them. The Big12 didn't have anything against MU at the time, they just didn't go out of their way to help them. They instead helped their bowl partner and let them pick a team who would actually show up to the bowl, and did!

Sorry, but you aren't going to get too many people on your side. MU made their own bed and has to lie in it.

 

[erikbj]

no to NYC please.........watching ISU in a blizzard doesn't sound like fun.