Barnes 6th per rivals!!!!

One player can certainly help but it's a team sport probably more than any other. Even the almighty one-man-circus-show Beasley couldn't get K-State to the finals. It's a team sport and it takes a team effort to win consistently.
 
I think one of the insiders said that he will decide in the fall anyway so that will be before we play any games this season.
 
Recruiting a #6 would give further relevance to this program....would that not be the highest ranked rivals men's recruit to ISU ever?
 
Puts more pressure on McD to win 20 this year, if he wants to have any momentum. A third year of 15 or less would be a very bad sign. Time is of the essence for the future. The five year plans are yesterday's news. Coaches must win sooner than in the past. Beating fluffs will not provide much momentum. You must be respectable in the conference. Then too, you could be like a Fresno State and come out of 33-27 record and be national champions. The most losses by an NCAA champion. The first NCAA championship in any sport for Fresno. The biggest underdog to ever win an NCAA team event. Better than North carolina state. Panked #79. We want to emulatre that model.

Best Barnes related post I have read in a long time. Barnes will be a Clone if we show him he can win here, otherwise he is out like disco.
 
Well when you have sucked 3 years in a row and a couple years before that. Getting the 6th ranked player in the country could make the program. Especially when you add Dykstra to the mix. That would make the 2011 class take a second look at Iowa State since there are some super studs there.

So yeah I would say the recruitment of Harrison Barnes is very important. Anyone who says otherwise is setting themselves up for if we don't get him.
 
Puts more pressure on McD to win 20 this year, if he wants to have any momentum. A third year of 15 or less would be a very bad sign. Time is of the essence for the future. . . .

Apparently, not from JP's point of view.

A few weeks ago on a radio interview show, JP said that he considers the upcoming season to be Mac's first in Ames (so much of what happened the first two seasons was beyond Mac's control, I took JP to mean).

JP, seemingly, has plenty of patience with Mac's program-building. Guess this doesn't preclude JP from thinking Mac can have a decent season, though.
 
Sure it does. He will be much more well known and much more watched. NBA scouts will have seen him play before he ever gets to college and there will be agents in his ear a year after college. He could average 12 points a game as a freshman and be a one and done. There are a ton of players out there like it

There are a ton of players that got horrible advice about leaving skool early and were one and done in the NBA.
 
One player can certainly help but it's a team sport probably more than any other. Even the almighty one-man-circus-show Beasley couldn't get K-State to the finals. It's a team sport and it takes a team effort to win consistently.

I would say that K-State is happy that Beasley stopped by to play a season. Do you think they would have made the NCAA's (and then easily beat USC, with the revered Tim Floyd and O.J. Mayo) without him?
 
Apparently, not from JP's point of view.

A few weeks ago on a radio interview show, JP said that he considers the upcoming season to be Mac's first in Ames (so much of what happened the first two seasons was beyond Mac's control, I took JP to mean).

JP, seemingly, has plenty of patience with Mac's program-building. Guess this doesn't preclude JP from thinking Mac can have a decent season, though.

We all read that. Old news. If you want to be good, you have to be better in the third year. Call it his first if you want, but he continues to be a .500 coach with an easy cream puff non conf schedule, he may never make it over the hump in Ames. Recruiting appears to be occurring earlier for most of the good players. Perhaps JP comment from awhile back was necessary to help the fundraising.
 
If HB went instead to UNVC or USC and became like an OJ Mayo, then I offer that would hurt recruiting future players more than we want to let on. If he chose to come to Ames, Others Will Follow to the Arena of Dreams.

This potential recruitment may or may not mean McD gets a salary raise......more at stake than just a single player. And, if he is one and done, so be it. Better in Ames than in Raleigh, home of the Blue Weasels.
 
As his stock rises our chances continue to drop. College recruiting is the dirtiest business in sports. I don't think we have the muscle to keep him in Ames.
 
One player can certainly help but it's a team sport probably more than any other. Even the almighty one-man-circus-show Beasley couldn't get K-State to the finals. It's a team sport and it takes a team effort to win consistently.
I get what you're saying that Barnes isn't the only savior out there but one elite basketball player will have more of an effect on a team than one elite football player or one elite baseball player.

Yeah Beasley didn't lead K-State to a title but without him do they sniff the NCAA 2nd round or the top 25? Let's let ISU get to that point before we start worrying about leading a team to the finals. How often will ISU have this good of a shot with a top 10 player? Will the our basketball world end if he (likely in my opinion) goes somewhere else? No, but, like it or not this is possibly the most important ISU recruit ever.
 
Wrong - can't go straight to pro anymore.

They really need to set it up like baseball does it. Straight to the draft, or play 3 years in college before you're eligible

This one and done stuff is not good for the college game IMO
 
How long untill D-League teams start offering a year at a local JuCo with a contract. So sign with them, get some school in AND get paid...
 

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