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But end of the day, they did beat them, so imo it does help. They were the BCS #4.
I mean as far as the "eyeball" test goes, if OSU would have beaten Stanford soundly it would be much easier to consider them as being better than Alabama.
 
I'll admit that Bama played very good defense last night. But you can't convince me that they would have done the same thing to OSU. The LSU offense was just terrible with absoultely no vertical pass game threat. It's pretty easy to defend that.

Yep. And while alabama may have scored more, so we cant tell for sure who would have won, it wouldve been much more interesting than watching this rematch play out again. Yet another reason you should have to win your conference to play in the title game- ensuring conferences that otherwise might not play each other much get a shot at each other.

As of now, we have a sample size of one: Arkansas. And what happened with them? It took a meltdown by one of our most underachieving teams to lose to them, and Kstate played a very competitive game with them (takeaway the kick return for a td that shouldve been called back and things mightve been even closer)
 
Personally, I'm sick of hearing about the SEC defenses. They played in a league with zero good QB's. How hard is it to stop teams when you don't have to worry about a guy like Luck, or Griffin, or Weeden. Really, how many good offensive players are there in the SEC?
 
I mean as far as the "eyeball" test goes, if OSU would have beaten Stanford soundly it would be much easier to consider them as being better than Alabama.

True, it would help more, but anytime you beat a top 5 team i'd say thats a resume builder, no matter how many points you beat them by.
 
At the end of the day, we will never know if OSU was better than Bama because of the current system. Debate it all you want.
 
If Alabama's kickers didn't look like ISU's in the first LSU game, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Bama missed 4 of 6 FGs in that game. :shocked:

Wouldn't everyone just be ****** that LSU got another rematch had they lost the first game, since their only loss would've been to Alabama?

One other thing that I never saw an answer to was this scenario.... If Georgia would've beaten LSU in the SEC title game it would've been possible that final BCS still had Alabama and LSU as #1 and #2 in the polls. Assuming a conference can only have 2 teams in the BCS would Georgia have been left out, or the #2 team?
 
Personally, I'm sick of hearing about the SEC defenses. They played in a league with zero good QB's. How hard is it to stop teams when you don't have to worry about a guy like Luck, or Griffin, or Weeden. Really, how many good offensive players are there in the SEC?

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Personally, I'm sick of hearing about the SEC defenses. They played in a league with zero good QB's. How hard is it to stop teams when you don't have to worry about a guy like Luck, or Griffin, or Weeden. Really, how many good offensive players are there in the SEC?

Said that last night and I agree 100% in the SEC all the QB has to do is manage the game and not **** up.
 
Alabama might have scored 50 on OSU though. We can't just assume that their offense would've struggled like it did last night against LSU when comparing it to OSU.

lol @ the thought of Alabama scoring 50 on oSu. Baylor couldn't do it. Stanford couldn't do it. But an SEC offense could. Gotcha.
 
Bama would shove the ball right down OKSt throat.

prob, but i dont beleive for a second that okie state, nor andrew luck would have been held td less in two games agianst bama... shoot cam torched them last year and luck is apparently the best college qb prospect since john elway...

i would have rather seen those 4 teams duke it out. i want to see luck audible every play based on sabans defense... 2 of bamas ranked games were against the same team.. at home and neutral field... hardly a rough schedule.
 
Wouldn't everyone just be ****** that LSU got another rematch had they lost the first game, since their only loss would've been to Alabama?

One other thing that I never saw an answer to was this scenario.... If Georgia would've beaten LSU in the SEC title game it would've been possible that final BCS still had Alabama and LSU as #1 and #2 in the polls. Assuming a conference can only have 2 teams in the BCS would Georgia have been left out, or the #2 team?

There's an clause for that scenario. Alabama (would be #1) would play #2 LSU (assuming they stayed that high), and georgia would get an auto BCS bid. This is the only way a conference can get 3 BCS bids.
 
But end of the day, they did beat them, so imo it does help. They were the BCS #4.


why? standford does not suck.. in fact id say they are very good. because they lost to oregon? you cannot compare games like this at all... just stupid. thats like saying boise cant play with the big boys because they dont play anyone good all year or they lost to nevada so theyd lose to oklahoma... doesnt work that way.

id have to think with over 30 days to prepare luck would be able to score on bama, bama would score more than they did against lsu, but would be a different kind of game. bama wouldnt be able to sell out every single down against stanford.. in the sec this year all bama had to do was blitz ,and put 9 in the box every down... so difficult..
 
why? standford does not suck.. in fact id say they are very good. because they lost to oregon? you cannot compare games like this at all... just stupid. thats like saying boise cant play with the big boys because they dont play anyone good all year or they lost to nevada so theyd lose to oklahoma... doesnt work that way.

id have to think with over 30 days to prepare luck would be able to score on bama, bama would score more than they did against lsu, but would be a different kind of game. bama wouldnt be able to sell out every single down against stanford.. in the sec this year all bama had to do was blitz ,and put 9 in the box every down... so difficult..

I'm not sure we're disagreeing. I was saying OSU's win over stanford was a resume builder for OSU because Stanford was a very good team, with one loss coming to another top 10 team.
 
For the most part, the majority of the SEC is one dimensional. All you have to do is stop the run on defense. I think OSU would have some relative success doing that (not perfect but good enough).

As the past has shown, the SEC always produces great defensive lines. However, if you have a great quarterback and receivers who can catch, SEC stands no chance (Boise State, Utah, Texas with Colt McCoy, etc.). Oklahoma State has a great quarterback and receivers who are superstars.
 
I don't see why it has to become a big 12 vs SEC thing..just watching them play, I can't think of a single team in any conference that comes close to the defense bama put together..probably in quite a few years. Has nothing to do with the competition.

Also thought last night was a good example of why the option doesn't work in the NFL. LSU should have given up on it. I don't think it worked once.
 
Examples of SECSECSEC vs. competent passing offenses...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc3s1E8J9vE&feature=related]Utah Utes - Sugar Bowl 2009 HD - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZysDJlv92w]Boise State vs Georgia 35-21 - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD8qS3RGEu4]2009 Georgia vs Oklahoma State: The Highlights - YouTube[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFoVMO5OPfM[/ame]
 
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