Assistant coach rumor I am hearing

To be frank, with Grayer and Nurse I do like our chances in the next year or two better than I did before...but that is basically me going from believing we will finish last to second to last.
 
I like the potential Grayer/Nurse combination. I think it adds to the player relations overall, and the coaching ability of the staff with Nurse. Both have been lacking in recent years.
Sure player relations might improve but what does it matter if these guys aren't going to help us get the kind of players we need to win? It will be more the of the same except for a different problem.
 
I read the article. It sounds like Jeff's boss there in Flynt was a little more demanding than McDermott's boss.


He was probably smart enough not to extend Grayer's contract prior to needing to fire him.

I think we all know what Jeff's job was in that program. His job was to be Jeff Grayer and collect $66k a year. A former playground star who made good but was returning home to give back while doing little more than being a name.

I would guess nearly every city in America has a similar position. If he couldn't do that job right, I don't see what makes anyone believe that he could benefit our basketball program.
 
I like the potential Grayer/Nurse combination. I think it adds to the player relations overall, and the coaching ability of the staff with Nurse. Both have been lacking in recent years.

What do you know of Grayer's ability to interact with the players? I'd be interested in knowing what insight you have.
 
He was probably smart enough not to extend Grayer's contract prior to needing to fire him.

I think we all know what Jeff's job was in that program. His job was to be Jeff Grayer and collect $66k a year. A former playground star who made good but was returning home to give back while doing little more than being a name.

I would guess nearly every city in America has a similar position. If he couldn't do that job right, I don't see what makes anyone believe that he could benefit our basketball program.


Well, it IS a public school system in Michigan. You couldn't save one of those systems if you were Jamie Escalante, that guy with the baseball bat in "Stand By Me", Glenn Ford in "The Blackboard Jungle" and Steven Freakin' Hawking all rolled into one.
 
It sounds like Gmac is jumping the shark here.....

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at this point it's desperation time in which he should be trying to get the best possible recruiters in here to try and save his job.

We lost our best possible recruiter in Daniyal Robinson. If McDermott couldn't convince DR (a native Iowan) to stay one more year in Ames, who is going to want to relocate to ISU for what very well could be a 10-month stay?
 
We lost our best possible recruiter in Daniyal Robinson. If McDermott couldn't convince DR (a native Iowan) to stay one more year in Ames, who is going to want to relocate to ISU for what very well could be a 10-month stay?
There has to be somebody who has SOME recruiting ties right? Maybe somebody that has been involved in college basketball within the past five years..
 
He was probably smart enough not to extend Grayer's contract prior to needing to fire him.

I think we all know what Jeff's job was in that program. His job was to be Jeff Grayer and collect $66k a year. A former playground star who made good but was returning home to give back while doing little more than being a name.

Pollard definitely screwed us with the extension, but I'm wondering if you even read the article you posted. Jeff's boss was a woman named Gail! I wouldn't jump to conclusions here. It sounds like this woman could have been a real b****.

Flint School District's Mentors Committed to Excellence program continues after district fires well known program manager Jeff Grayer | Flint News - - MLive.com

Gail A. Ganakas, executive director of community education and relations who was Grayer’s boss, is now overseeing the program. She was not available for comment.

In Grayer’s employment evaluation dated June 29, 2009, Ganakas wrote that Grayer is passionate in helping children, has access to major contributors for the district and maintained and trained 623 mentors who helped 998 students in the 2008-09 school year.

But, Ganakas wrote that Grayer needed to submit a recruitment improvement plan with specific updates required: “In the third year of the district’s Mentors Committed to Excellence Program, the slight increase in mentors (623) reflects a lack of accountability of daily, weekly, monthly logs.”

The program had 795 mentors in the 2007-08 school year, a 105 percent jump from the previous school year, according to FOIA information.

Grayer, who continues to work with more than 70 students through Flint Athletes for Better Education, said each August he had to renew relationships with past mentors to encourage them to return, as well as recruit new ones.

Some mentors have left the area because of the economy, he said.

“We were recruiting and getting the troops ready so to speak, but not really getting them acclimated into the building,” Grayer said.

“I just sincerely hope that they continue to push the program forward because it really is truly needed,” he added.
 
Sure player relations might improve but what does it matter if these guys aren't going to help us get the kind of players we need to win? It will be more the of the same except for a different problem.

Possibly, though I think Nurse may be a dark horse candidate where we get more than we bargain for. I just get a good feeling about him.

What do you know of Grayer's ability to interact with the players? I'd be interested in knowing what insight you have.

Just an impression. Jeff was a really, really talented player, and came off as really grounded and humble. And he's a Cyclone through and through. I'll take my chances with him.
 
Just an impression. Jeff was a really, really talented player, and came off as really grounded and humble. And he's a Cyclone through and through. I'll take my chances with him.

What he said. Jeff Grayer is the sort of guy I'd trust to watch my cheeseburger platter while I made a quick trip to the restroom. Trusting GMac to do that would probably get my whole platter, fries and all, eaten up while I was gone; however, I'm sure that Jamie would come over to my table and assure me that some spoiled kid with a Syracuse BB jersey on ran into the restaurant & snatched up my burger, but that he's going to make it all better for me because he's had a talk with the restaurant manager and he's gotten him to agree to let GMac eat there for free from now on. :jimlad:
 
I am not going against any of you who are skeptical of this hire but answer this? Jeff has as much major college experience in coaching as does Nurse (whom people are insanely thinking could be our next HC) why is he a poor hire and Nurse is not? Jeff has minor league coaching experince in pro basketball just like Nurse.

I will promise you he has better recruiting connections that does Nurse.

I am not saying he is the next big thing in coaching but we have had worse on our bench. (Lance Irvin, Tres Chapman, the dude who admirable filled in for Bob Sunvold when he quit right before camp)

Jeff is so blessed that WM did not want him to work onhis staff. Otherwise he would be tainted worse than some of you make him out to be.

We could do better- we have done worse...
 
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I am not going against any of you who are skeptical of this hire but answer this? Jeff has as much major college experience in coaching as does Nurse (whom people are insanely thinking could be our next HC) why is he a poor hire and Nurse is not? Jeff has minor league coaching experince in pro basketball just like Nurse.

I will promise you he has better recruiting connections that does Nurse.

I am not saying he is the next big thing in coaching but we have had worse on our bench. (Lance Irvin, Tres Chapman, the dude who admirable filled in for Bob Sunvold when he quit right before camp)

Jeff is so blessed that WM did not want him to work onhis staff. Otherwise he would be tainted worse than some of you make him out to be.

We could do better- we have done worse...

EXCELLENT POINT! The thing is that I have no real interest in the career of Nick Nurse. He seems like a nice guy, but what do I know? I feel like I have an emotional investment in Jeff Grayer, because of our shared ISU legacy.

If Nick Nurse jumps aboard the HMS McDermott and crashed into the iceberg with the rest of the staff, it sucks to be him but that's the nature of coaching.

If Jeff Grayer goes down with that ship, we run the risk of alienating a great former player and a good guy who still loves ISU and the fanbase. I really hate the idea of that being a possibility.
 
I am not going against any of you who are skeptical of this hire but answer this? Jeff has as much major college experience in coaching as does Nurse (whom people are insanely thinking could be our next HC) why is he a poor hire and Nurse is not? Jeff has minor league coaching experince in pro basketball just like Nurse.

I will promise you he has better recruiting connections that does Nurse.

Nurse has been a head coach for several seasons, Grayer has not. Nick's coaching resume is more favorable.

The issue with adding Grayer is that you would now have two assistants who have been out of the recruiting loop for several years. I think you can survive with one, not so sure about two. For that reason, I will be mildly surprised if both end up on the staff.
 
EXCELLENT POINT! The thing is that I have no real interest in the career of Nick Nurse. He seems like a nice guy, but what do I know? I feel like I have an emotional investment in Jeff Grayer, because of our shared ISU legacy.

If Nick Nurse jumps aboard the HMS McDermott and crashed into the iceberg with the rest of the staff, it sucks to be him but that's the nature of coaching.

If Jeff Grayer goes down with that ship, we run the risk of alienating a great former player and a good guy who still loves ISU and the fanbase. I really hate the idea of that being a possibility.

I don't understand why you are so concerned, and Grayer obviously is not. It's his career and legacy, not yours. He is the one with something to lose. Not you. Why do you care so much??
 
You compared Mac to other coaches that you don't hate, you just hope they never win. I love it when our "fans" hope "our" teams lose so that their own objective is achieved. Classy...

You might want to reread my original post, Sparky. I said I HATE those people in question, except for Rick Neuheisel, who is just a sleaze who is beneath contempt. I HATE 'em. I'll admit it. The two people I mentioned are scum; HOWEVER, unlike those people in sports I admit to hating, I specifically said I DON'T hate GMac.

You see how it works?

Hate 'em = I hope they get hit by a bus.

Don't hate 'em = I hope they have a good life, but if they're doing an incompetent job coaching at my favorite University, I'd like to see them removed gently.

Am I going too fast for you? Would you prefer more pictures and smaller words?
 

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