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I was just wondering if im the only one that is against stevie. I mean the guy just doesn tdo it for me. Hes pretty much a big pile. Only + i see to him is he holds on to the ball but.....3 yard carries just dont excite me. I need some BAM! SOME EXPLOSIVOS!!!!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(goonies_89 @ Jun 15 2006, 02:01 AM) [post=4663]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'> I was just wondering if im the only one that is against stevie. I mean the guy just doesn tdo it for me. Hes pretty much a big pile. Only + i see to him is he holds on to the ball but.....3 yard carries just dont excite me. I need some BAM! SOME EXPLOSIVOS!!!! [/b][/quote]if you need more explosiveness,watch some more pornos
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. when our line is decent he can carry it 5 yards after contact,the brother just needs some support.
 
stevie sucks reminds me of ricky running to the border williams. or eddie george. or stevie nicks......just like a Just like the white winged dove...Sings a song...Sounds like shes singing...Whoo... whoo... whoo...Ooo baby... ooo... said ooo
 
We lost most of our games that Stevie was out and won most of the games he was in. He makes a difference. We need a line that can create a hole.
 
I would tend to agree with the idea that Stevie just doesn't do it for me. I my opinion he runs to upright, no breakaway speed, to slow to the hole and acts like he's afraid to take a hit. I would have to agree he does have the ability to hang on to the ball. I was a little disappointed last year in the fact that we pulled the redshirt off of Jason Harris and he hardly played. Granted he had a couple of fumbles, but he also had some good runs as well.

Recently I saw some ISU football players at a fundraiser and asked them about Stevie and what we could expect from him this year & their response was "well, he's healthy". When you get that kind of response from several offensive starters, it makes you wonder their thoughts on Stevie's abilities going into his senior year.

However, if Stevie can prove me wrong and have a strong year (1,000+ yards) we should do extremely well as a team this year. I can't hardly wait for football to start.
 
One thing you guys are forgetting is his blocking abilities. Granted, we're not handing out schollies to RBs for their blocking ability, but it's another positive in his game.

With that said, he's not my first pick either. He simply dances too much in the backfield. Even when he ran for 1K a couple of years ago, he wasn't hitting the hole hard. He's supposed to be a big bruising style RB that runs people over. He just doesn't have the quickness to out-juke defenders. He's got a big muscular body that should be ramming through that line.

Come on Stevie - you've got one season left to prove that you can get it done...
 
I look at him as an unknown going into the season. If he stays healthy and our line can create some holes, he has some great upside. He doesn't have that explosive nature to his run where he's just going to blow past everybody but we don't necessarily need that if he can be consistent, healthy, and provide some added yards to our great passing game.

I agree that he may have been dissapointing at times but I think it has to do with the lack of being at 110%. He has been dealing with injuries, even a lot of minor injuries that aren't ever really reported, and that hurts not only his game on the field but his mental aptitude as well.

He isn't Troy Davis, but we also don't need a 2,000 yard runner this year either, imo. If he can provide some quality minutes and have a decent backup, I think we'll do just fine in the running game.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(iowast8 @ Jun 15 2006, 07:52 AM) [post=4678]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'> We lost most of our games that Stevie was out and won most of the games he was in. He makes a difference. We need a line that can create a hole.

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Amen to that.

We've been very spoiled over the last 10 years with some really good backs. Would I love to have a Troy Davis this season with these other offensive studs? Hell yes!

But we don't. Last year was just one of those things no one can control. Stevie just couldn't get healthy. Plus, our line wasn't very physical.

I think the line will play much better this season, allowing Stevie more room to run. If Scales can get healthy and Harris can hold onto the football, I think we'll have a nice rotation of backs to compliment our passing game.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(iowast8 @ Jun 15 2006, 07:52 AM) [post=4678]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'> We lost most of our games that Stevie was out and won most of the games he was in. He makes a difference. We need a line that can create a hole.

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This had alot to do with the pass rush that Stevie was very good at defending. Every game he was out Meyer was huried multiple times. With the recievers we have, Stevie is very crucial to buying Meyer valuable time. He not the best rusher I have seen, but did go for over 1000 in 2004, and to me is not so bad! Lets just hope he is ridid of his injury.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jay moe @ Jun 15 2006, 08:39 AM) [post=4687]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'> If Stevie was healthy last year we would have won the Big XII north and went to a January bowl game. Enough said! [/b][/quote]



If we had a kicker who make the ones a DI schollie kicker should make (not all, just a reasonable amount), we would have the won the BIg XII North, and went to a Jan bowl game.


oh yeah then we'd have an extra couple million lying around to help fund...well take your pick bball/vb practice facility/FB asst coaches salaries/gymnastics facitlities/bowling in the stadium
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(goonies_89 @ Jun 15 2006, 02:16 AM) [post=4668]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'> stevie sucks reminds me of ricky running to the border williams. or eddie george. or stevie nicks......just like a Just like the white winged dove...Sings a song...Sounds like shes singing...Whoo... whoo... whoo...Ooo baby... ooo... said ooo [/b][/quote]



If Stevie can run like Ricky or Eddie (two Heisman Trophy Winners), we will have a legitimate chance at the National Championship. Goonies, if you are attempting to rip on Stevie, it doesn't make sense to use two examples of individuals that were voted the best players in the nation while they were in college. Stevie is what he is when healthy, a solid but unspectacular back who is very important for the success of this team. The real hope we have is for Harris or one of the frosh to step up because, if you recall, it wasn't until Scales seriously threatened him as a starter in 2004 (outrushing him at Baylor) that Stevie turned his game up a notch and scored all 5 of his rushing touchdowns during the final 6 weeks. ISU's record in that stretch 5-1. ISU's record last year when Stevie was able to play and lead the team in rushing - 5-0. To me, wins and losses are what truly matter.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jeremy @ Jun 15 2006, 08:05 AM) [post=4682]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'> He isn't Troy Davis, but we also don't need a 2,000 yard runner this year either, imo. If he can provide some quality minutes and have a decent backup, I think we'll do just fine in the running game. [/b][/quote]



What would Troy Davis have been able to do with the kind of teams we've had the last few years? Granted, he wouldn't be handed the ball on EVERY SINGLE DOWN because we have other options now. However, he would have a better core of players complimenting his game. He got the yards during his time even when EVERY team knew he would get the ball on every down. With a few more options and other players to defend, Davis could have broken some really huge runs with the players we have had recently.
 
Is everyone forgeting that he was a 1000 yd rusher in 2004? That was only two years ago. He was injured last year and is supposedly healthy to this point. We don't need a running back like Troy Davis to run this offense. Another 1000 yard season along with the passing game should move this offense pretty well. Granted he is not a speedster but if we show that we need a speed runner we have one on the bench in Jason Harris who is getting a lot more work from the coaches this year. Hopefully he is ready if he is called upon.



Stevie has had some injury problems. But when he is healthy he is a great back.
 
Hicks is solid running back. Not flashy, but solid running back who is a great blocker. We can win with a solid running back, but the real issue is we need an O-line to open some holes. If healthy and with decent oline Hicks can be a 1200-1500 yard back. If we don't have holes to run in, then we need hicks more than ever because we will need his blocking because everydown is a passing down and the defense knows it.
 
I've noticed over the last couple years that even though he has the talent, and is a great blocking back, it takes him too long to find and hit the holes. He tends to juke once or twice in the backfield before he hits his hole, and I think he could become a great back if only he could instantly hit the hole and explode through hit. Here's to hoping it happens.
 
wheres the stats on stevie? all you guys say is how he holds on to the ball, wheres the yac. Im getting across here that he sucks.....
 
I think it is stupid and childish to belittle one of our players. Go belittle someone else's players, but I don't find it necessary to bash our own players. Give me a break!
We won games with him last year, we lost games without him. The guy can't help it he had a groin injury, so get off him. I want to see how hard you can hit the hole with a pulled groin.
Quit complaining and support our players. If we had someone better, they would be playing instead. So get over it.
I'm excited to see what happens this coming football season.

For those who want see some stats.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=133885

Looking at his numbers from last year, he had 4 games in which he was able to carry the ball more than 20 times.
In those 4 games, he rushed over 100 yards in 3 of the 4, averaged 4.7 yards per carry.
If he were to carry the ball 270 times over the course of the season like he did in 2004, and maintaned a 4.5 y/c he would have rushed for over 1200 yards.
I'll take it.

oh yeah, and he doesn't have a single career fumble.
 
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