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ISU42 said:
This is probably the third different time I've asked you to provide sources, but can you provide a link to the studies?[/

Sure ISU 42. I can provide probably a dozen more if you like.

Driving a vehicle while texting is six times more dangerous than driving while intoxicated according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA).1 The federal agency reports that sending or receiving a text takes a driver’s eyes from the road for an average of 4.6 seconds, the equivalent -- when traveling at 55 mph -- of driving the length of an entire football field while blindfolded.2

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Texting in cars and trucks causes over 3,000 deaths and 330,000 injuries per year, according to a Harvard Center for Risk Analysis study.3

Texting while driving a vehicle has now replaced drinking while driving as the leading cause of accidents and deaths of teenage drivers.4 Texting in traffic isn’t simply a problem among teens and 47% of adults admit that they text while driving.5 Texting drivers are 23 times more likely to be involved in a crash than non-texting drivers.
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Hopefully MT doesn't make this mistake again. He shouldn't be drinking and driving and considering he's underage he should be smart enough to keep his drinking a little bit inconspicuous.
 
Like I said, how many on here look at their phone while driving? At least half and I'm probably off by 49%. I certainly don't condone anyone driving while drinking but a far worse problem is everyone texting and driving.
 
Beyerball said:
Texting in cars and trucks causes over 3,000 deaths and 330,000 injuries per year, according to a Harvard Center for Risk Analysis study.3
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If I read correctly, page 72 of the NHSTA document linked below says that there were 9,364 fatal alcohol-impaired driving crashes in 2012, or about 30% of the total fatal crashes.

http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/812032.pdf

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Like I said, how many on here look at their phone while driving? At least half and I'm probably off by 49%. I certainly don't condone anyone driving while drinking but a far worse problem is everyone texting and driving.
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Since 9,364 > 3,000 I fail to see how texting and driving is far worse than drinking and driving. Your assertion seems flawed.
 
ISU42 's obvious agenda aside, it IS troubling that Thomas didn't learn from Nader's mistake. You would think that the guys would think twice about driving if they have been drinking after Nader's run - in with the law. Makes me think Fred might feel like he has to increase the punishment to get the point across. And that might not be too pleasant. Which will hurt Nader too.
 
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Again with the extremes.

CycloneErik said:
Also: heavy drinkers who need every excuse to rationalize their own behavior.
I've learned here that everything goes when alcohol is involved, and that is apparently how it should be.
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Yes. anyone who defends drinking must be a "heavy drinker" who conducts in the same type of bad behavior being discussed.

jbhtexas said:
You don't have to be a regular drinker to be well-versed about the culture surrounding drinking. Just ask anyone whose had an alcoholic parent, sibling, relative, friends, boss, coworker, etc.
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Again, so unless you have experience with the most extreme end of the spectrum where you have seen multiple MORE SEVERE personal problems stemming from alcohol than a DUI, you don't know about the topic.
 
He made a mistake. Thankfully it did not turn out worse. I know someone that made that same mistake, and paid dearly. No, she did not die, but she has to live the rest of her life knowing that she took the life of another.

Matt seems to be the type that will learn his lesson. I don't think Fred tolerates those that do not accept responsibility for their mistakes.
 
Cyhart said:
ISU42 's obvious agenda aside, it IS troubling that Thomas didn't learn from Nader's mistake. You would think that the guys would think twice about driving if they have been drinking after Nader's run - in with the law. Makes me think Fred might feel like he has to increase the punishment to get the point across. And that might not be too pleasant. Which will hurt Nader too.
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Fred's kind of in a corner since Mann didn't seem to get much of a punishment when he hit a pole and blew a .15 or something around there. I hope SDW makes the most of his minutes those first few games.
 
jbhtexas said:
If I read correctly, page 72 of the NHSTA document linked below says that there were 9,364 fatal alcohol-impaired driving crashes in 2012, or about 30% of the total fatal crashes.

http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/812032.pdf



Since 9,364 > 3,000 I fail to see how texting and driving is far worse than drinking and driving. Your assertion seems flawed.
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Agreed and texting happens probably far more than drunk driving. I haven't driven drunk in probably 15 years or so, but I've probably texted while driving in the last week.
 
Cyhart said:
The Des Moines cab fares are outlandish. Have to be some of the highest in the country. The same parent company owns Capital Cab and Yellow Cab, which is part of the problem. Cabbing from downtown to the western suburbs will cost you over $40.
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I paid 45 to go about 6 miles in Oakland and 30 to go less than 3 miles in Honolulu. It's ridiculous what these cab companies can get away with.
 
Cyhart said:
ISU42 's obvious agenda aside, it IS troubling that Thomas didn't learn from Nader's mistake. You would think that the guys would think twice about driving if they have been drinking after Nader's run - in with the law. Makes me think Fred might feel like he has to increase the punishment to get the point across. And that might not be too pleasant. Which will hurt Nader too.
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Please share with the rest of the class what my agenda is.
 
Beyerball said:
ISU42 said:
This is probably the third different time I've asked you to provide sources, but can you provide a link to the studies?[/

Sure ISU 42. I can provide probably a dozen more if you like.

Driving a vehicle while texting is six times more dangerous than driving while intoxicated according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA).1 The federal agency reports that sending or receiving a text takes a driver’s eyes from the road for an average of 4.6 seconds, the equivalent -- when traveling at 55 mph -- of driving the length of an entire football field while blindfolded.2

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Texting in cars and trucks causes over 3,000 deaths and 330,000 injuries per year, according to a Harvard Center for Risk Analysis study.3

Texting while driving a vehicle has now replaced drinking while driving as the leading cause of accidents and deaths of teenage drivers.4 Texting in traffic isn’t simply a problem among teens and 47% of adults admit that they text while driving.5 Texting drivers are 23 times more likely to be involved in a crash than non-texting drivers.
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Hey you actually showed back up. I'm well aware of the dangers of texting. You have a tendency to say things without backing them up. Did you find the Niang links yet?
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This site argues texting and driving is actually ok, and it seems pretty trustworthy.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/report-texting-while-driving-okay-if-you-look-up-e,32583/

A new report published Monday by the National Transportation Safety Board advises motorists that sending text messages while driving “is totally fine” and “not that big a deal” as long as you make sure to glance up from your phone every now and then. “If you’re driving and have a really important text to send, that’s okay; just try to keep one eye on the road as best you can,” NTSB chairman Deborah Hersman said of the report, which advocates a new “50-50 rule” for texting drivers, suggesting they keep half their attention on the road and half on their handheld device. “After all, you can always steer with your knees or—if you really want to be extra careful—text with one hand and hold the wheel with the other. Better yet, just ask a passenger to give you a heads-up whenever there’s a red light or another car up ahead.” Hersman added that the report’s findings apply not only to texting, but also to checking email, playing games, or watching movies while driving.
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