AJ Derby Gone

Not getting PT is frustrating for any kid, even a kid that is loyal to a school. Best of luck to him and I hope he gets his shot at QB somewhere.
Yeah it's a damn shame if a quarterback isn't a starter as a freshman. It's just not fair to him. Time for him to pick up his ball and go home.
 
I still can't believe that he of all people is transferring.

How can people seriously be saying this about the EIU program right now? After everything that has happened over there, why are we still surprised?

This would be like being surprised that CPR gets another conference upset win next year . . .
 
He should just go to Ohio state. Because we all heard urban Meyer wants to make him the next Tim Tebow. Derby is a pretty darn good athlete... But from what I've seen, the guy can't throw.

Well maybe he can be the next Tim Tebow then.
 
So where do Hawk fans think he ends up? Does he go the UNI, FCS route? Or is he still trying to be a D-1 QB.

I gotta say UNI. With Rennie gone, I think he would have an excellent opportunity to play. I think with that linebacker mentality you would see a qb more like Fat Pat Grace. Hated the kid, but he was a bulldozer.
 
I gotta say UNI. With Rennie gone, I think he would have an excellent opportunity to play. I think with that linebacker mentality you would see a qb more like Fat Pat Grace. Hated the kid, but he was a bulldozer.


A few Iowa sports writers have said that Coffeyville Community College in Kansas may be where he ends up this year. He'd transfer there for a year, then be able to transfer back to FBS and not have to sit out.
 
I still can't believe that he of all people is transferring.

I think this transfer is completely different from all the RB transfers. I would guess that Derby left in good standing despite his alcohol charge earlier this year. I could give a rip about stupid things like that, its not like he was driving, beating up someone, or selling drugs. I think this is just a case of a kid who chose Iowa over some big name schools expecting to play QB and ended up getting moved to LB. Cant blame him.
 
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A few Iowa sports writers have said that Coffeyville Community College in Kansas may be where he ends up this year. He'd transfer there for a year, then be able to transfer back to FBS and not have to sit out.

Why play Juco when you can play D1AA right away? I know a lot of Hawk and Cyclone fans both look down on UNI, but the truth is that they are a very good school that has sent quite a few players to the NFL in the past few years.
 
Why play Juco when you can play D1AA right away? I know a lot of Hawk and Cyclone fans both look down on UNI, but the truth is that they are a very good school that has sent quite a few players to the NFL in the past few years.

This would be my opinion as well. Yeah he'd have 2 years to play D1 but he still needs to find a school that he can win a starting job at.
 
If Derby wants to play QB in Kinnick, then UNI should be his first choice.
I'd like to know just how many scholarship players Iowa has on the roster right now. Attrition killed ISU for a good 5 year span. Based on the losses, they may be headed in that direction.
 
No, this would not be like Matt Gatens. Matt Gatens has come in and started from day one at the position that he wants to play. If that were the case with Derby, then he never would have left. Watch the video that I linked, it was from August of this year. Derby has been set on playing qb from day one, and the interview shows how much he had his heart set on playing qb.

Scout.com: Going Nowhere

If you don't know the similarities between Gatens and Derby, and don't get the point that I made, than you aren't a Hawkeye fan.

Why play Juco when you can play D1AA right away? I know a lot of Hawk and Cyclone fans both look down on UNI, but the truth is that they are a very good school that has sent quite a few players to the NFL in the past few years.

He can play JUCO right away too. It's the smartest route for him. Go JUCO. Get some much needed playing action, see which schools want you, check out their depth chart and see which school fits you best, and make a decision
 
Al, completely OT here, and just for fun for some good natured **** talking, but did I read on HN (some guy copied a post you made on here I guess) that you think ISU's o-line will be better than Iowa's this coming season??

I agree that Derby would be an ideal Panther. I still can't believe that he of all people is transferring.

I think we have a better idea of what ISU's line will look like than Iowa's. We lost less starts, and KO was injured a fair share of last year. I realize that Ferentz is a great line coach, but 2 weeks into the season, when ISU and Iowa meet, I think ISU's O-line will be playing better.

I think most objective looking at who has what coming back would agree that on paper, ISU is a better team than Iowa next year. Iowa will still be favored due to the game being at Kinnick and the mysterious phenomena of Iowa's lines always being more skewed towards the Hawks than logic dictates.

This is probably the first time ever that I've thought ISU actually had a better team coming back than Iowa. I've rationalized predictions on ISU winning before, but its never based on ISU having a better team across the board.
 
I think we have a better idea of what ISU's line will look like than Iowa's. We lost less starts, and KO was injured a fair share of last year. I realize that Ferentz is a great line coach, but 2 weeks into the season, when ISU and Iowa meet, I think ISU's O-line will be playing better.

I think most objective looking at who has what coming back would agree that on paper, ISU is a better team than Iowa next year. Iowa will still be favored due to the game being at Kinnick and the mysterious phenomena of Iowa's lines always being more skewed towards the Hawks than logic dictates.

This is probably the first time ever that I've thought ISU actually had a better team coming back than Iowa. I've rationalized predictions on ISU winning before, but its never based on ISU having a better team across the board.

Ah, so you are saying it's my turn to rationalize winning with an inferior team....

:yes::yes::yes:

(but not now, but must act like I'm working)
 
BFD. He wants to play QB and can't at Iowa. Seems simple and non-controversial to me.
 
He can play JUCO right away too. It's the smartest route for him. Go JUCO. Get some much needed playing action, see which schools want you, check out their depth chart and see which school fits you best, and make a decision

I realize that he would be able to play no matter which route he took (FCS or JUCO), but I have got to believe that there would be a higher level of competition at an FCS school. FCS he would have two years of playing a higher level of competition rather than just one the JUCO route.

I think JUCO is almost one step back, one step forward, not really gaining anything. By the time he finishes JUCO, he isnt going to have those big name schools coming after him that he did coming out of high school unless he has Cam Newton type abilities.
 
I realize that he would be able to play no matter which route he took (FCS or JUCO), but I have got to believe that there would be a higher level of competition at an FCS school. FCS he would have two years of playing a higher level of competition rather than just one the JUCO route.

I think JUCO is almost one step back, one step forward, not really gaining anything. By the time he finishes JUCO, he isnt going to have those big name schools coming after him that he did coming out of high school unless he has Cam Newton type abilities.

But it does put him into a position of getting a crack at moving back to the FBS level, which may (or may not) be a goal of his.

I'm not sure about the rules, but can he transfer back up after a year of FCS?
 

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