4 weeks in - improvements?

Thanks for the accurate facts. My message was the same as yours, just not as accurate.

This team does not have the ability and mental toughness to overcome adversity. Yet they continue to put themselves in adverse situations.

Bingo. We also have a QB that struggles throwing the 15-20 yard pass and we continually put him in a position where he has to throw that to convert.
 
a kicker like mahoney (ie: accurate on FGs, but usually only kicks it to the goal line)

is better than a guy like Tony Yelk who could kick it 5 yards out of the back of the endzone and onto the top of the jacobson building on extra points, but couldn't make a 35 yard field goal more than 50% of the time.

To be fair, if I recall correctly Tony was recruited as a punter and took over kick-off duties because he had the strongest leg. For a short time he was the kicker they went to for really long FG's that our regular kicker didn't have the leg for. Only after we had disastrous results at place-kicker did he take over full time at place kicking. This is all from a foggy memory so someone correct me if I am wrong.

Too bad we don't consistently have a punter with a big leg who can consistently give us touchbacks on kick-offs. It's good for the team and it makes the punter more marketable in the NFL if they can be a punter/kick-off man.
 
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I think on the drive that Mahoney ran the fake field goal, we had a penalty. With the conversion of the fake, I believe that was the driv ARob scored the TD on.

No penalties on that drive. Just slow moving offense.

Now go back and tell me of those penalties/yards - how many are on the offense? :)

If the over/under was 75%, I'd bet the over.

For what it's worth I am not arguing with you, just providing what you asked for. Against UNI I am pretty sure every penalty, except one offsides call, was on the offense.
 
To be fair, if I recall correctly Tony was recruited as a punter and took over kick-off duties because he had the strongest leg. For a short time he was the kicker they went to for really long FG's that our regular kicker didn't have the leg for. Only after we had disasterous results at place-kicker did he take over full time at place kicking. This is all from a foggy memory so someone correct me if I am wrong.

Too bad we don't consistently have a punter with a big leg who can consistently give us touchbacks on kick-offs. It's good for the team and it makes the punter more marketable in the NFL if they can be a punter/kick-off man.
Your memory is rock solid. Tony was a great punter that kicked the long FGs and kick offs. Benike (sp) was used for the shorter ones.
 
The offense has me sick to my stomach. The penalties are a real issue. And should not be issues 4 weeks into the season. The QB play, Oline play, and RB play are worth an F.
 
Penalties do kill drives, I won't argue against that. But, a good offense should be able to overcome enough of them to still be able to move the ball and score points. Florida State had a bunch of penalties and still scored 31 on Wake Forest. Boise State always has a bunch of penalties and they still run people over.

We've had 5, 5, 8, and 8 penalties in our games this year. That's not incredibly high, IMO. Not great, but it's just that our offense is too terrible to overcome ANYTHING that sets us back...
 
For what it's worth I am not arguing with you, just providing what you asked for. Against UNI I am pretty sure every penalty, except one offsides call, was on the offense.

I know this is a little late; I meant to post it earlier.

The penalties were not as you remember them. If I found them all, they broke down like this:

Off - 5 infractions, 4 penalties - 25 yards
Def - 3 infractions, 3 penalties - 25 yards
ST - 1 infraction, 1 penalty - 10 yards

The consequences are probably why they stick out. Four offensive penalties resulted in killing 4 drives (couldn't pick up another 1st down) while the 3 defensive penalties resulted in one automatic first down, a 1st and 5 and a second and 3; both of which UNI picked up. The ST penalty resulted in a loss of field position (10 yards).

The problem is that they are still too frequent and the offense can't overcome them.

On the other hand, three of UNI's penalties were against the O (all 5 yarders). They picked up the first down after 2 of them and the third was at the end of the half so they never got to 4th down.
 
Seems to be a lack of fire by the offense. Can't point to a reason, but something seems to be missing. Still time to light a fire, but it needs to start Saturday.
 
I know this is a little late; I meant to post it earlier.

The penalties were not as you remember them. If I found them all, they broke down like this:

Off - 5 infractions, 4 penalties - 25 yards
Def - 3 infractions, 3 penalties - 25 yards
ST - 1 infraction, 1 penalty - 10 yards

The consequences are probably why they stick out. Four offensive penalties resulted in killing 4 drives (couldn't pick up another 1st down) while the 3 defensive penalties resulted in one automatic first down, a 1st and 5 and a second and 3; both of which UNI picked up. The ST penalty resulted in a loss of field position (10 yards).

The problem is that they are still too frequent and the offense can't overcome them.

On the other hand, three of UNI's penalties were against the O (all 5 yarders). They picked up the first down after 2 of them and the third was at the end of the half so they never got to 4th down.

Thanks for posting this, I went a bit farther back and found that 16 of our 26 penalties on the year were on the offense = 61%. 1 less penalty per game from the offense and the O would have just barely half the penalties on the team. Everyone remembers them because they are coming at inopportune times.
 
The current group playing offense needs a near miracle to overcome down and distance problems. Obviously, if that doesn't change, no more wins for the year is in play.
 
To be fair, if I recall correctly Tony was recruited as a punter and took over kick-off duties because he had the strongest leg. For a short time he was the kicker they went to for really long FG's that our regular kicker didn't have the leg for. Only after we had disastrous results at place-kicker did he take over full time at place kicking. This is all from a foggy memory so someone correct me if I am wrong.

Too bad we don't consistently have a punter with a big leg who can consistently give us touchbacks on kick-offs. It's good for the team and it makes the punter more marketable in the NFL if they can be a punter/kick-off man.
Depends on which of the 8 years he was here that you're talking about . . . :rolleyes:
 
I played O-line in college. If you jumped off-side, you got yanked and got to watch from the sidelines for awhile...which tended to pi.. you off and increased your concentration next time. The snap is on one or two, doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure it out. IMO, linemen jumping off-side are the worst penalties because they screw up everbodies thinking process since they have to rehuddle and change the play and they still have the oriignal play in the back of their minds. Getting line surge on the snap is the main advantage an offensive play has over the defense and our team right now does not do this with consistent success. Herman needs to have a "come to Jesus meeting" with his O-line coach soon or consider a shakeup after the season.
 

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