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I think saying that year that there was not another offensive player on the roster that made an NFL roster is a reasonable way to show that Wallace did not have the talent around him.
I think Purdy is a better QB by a good margin, but their jobs, responsibilities were quite different. Not to mention, comparing passing stats today to past eras isn’t very relevant.
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Hey I was at both of those games too!
Wallace's QB rating vs Iowa that game be torched them for 361 yards : 147.6
Purdy's career QB rating: 152.0
demoncore1031
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No, IOWA STATE has those wins. Last time I checked football was a team game. Don't get me wrong, Brock is great and is definitely one of the top 10 Cyclones of all-time, but we can't count wins when it comes to this debate. By that logic you would have to say that TD can't be in the running for best Cyclone of all-time because the teams he was on never won.
Troy Davis is the best football player in ISU history. Period.
demoncore1031
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Those mentioning Seneca Wallace... imagine if he was 15 years younger and got to play in today's style of football. That would be great to see. He would be compared to Russell Wilson and Kyler Murray.
We’ll see what the NFL thinks about Purdy’s arm strength, accuracy, etc, etc. That should solve this debate.
And then we can compare their NFL careers later.
And then we can compare their NFL careers later.
What does any of that have to do with how great of an ISU quarterback he is? Does that mean Montgomery is better that Troy Davis? Because he’s had a better NFL career.
Purdy reminds me a bit of Derek Jeter (I hate the Yankees). Incredible talent/winner/clutch, but might not be the best talent the team has had, but is certainly in the conversation. As someone else said, it is all semantics.
I do love the fact that during the game Saturday as ESPN gushed over Sam Ehlinger, Brock went about his business, didn't make any mistakes, and got the W.
Someone isn’t very confident in Purdy in the NFL for some reason?
Why not? What do the NFL GM’s not like about Purdy?
I think Purdy will play more snaps than Seneca did in the NFL but it doesn't have any relation to the conversation at hand
I also think people are remembering the highs and forgetting or downplaying the lows.
While I do think there was a burden on Wallace to do way more based on the lack of talent around him, I don’t think there is a way you can argue that Purdy is not the best QB in ISU history already, and certainly will be by the time he’s done.
I think it is premature to say Purdy is better than Blair or Troy, but he is pretty clearly the best QB ISU has ever had. Football is really hard to compare individual guys, especially across eras. If all positions were of equal impact I’d say Rose and Hall are the two best players on the team. But with the way the game is played and officiated now, the QB has the biggest impact by a significant margin.
People bringing in arm strength to argue against Purdy are being dumb. Purdy probably isn’t in top 50 all time in QB arm strength at ISU. He’s accurate, despite some bad mistakes typically makes the right decisions, makes plays with his feet, and most importantly seems to always come back from a bad play or bad half.
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No one is denying Purdy is good but he has much better receivers and lineman. Seneca would have been over 60% with a better supporting cast.
If Purdy gets more snaps in the NFL than Seneca.... I'll admit you win this argument.
I just wonder.... let's say Purdy doesn't get drafted.... why do you think that would be? His size? Well Seneca was smaller. What else would it be?
I can tell you why Tebow sucked in the NFL.... he had a really slow release and basically stared down his first option and if that wasn't open he was usually screwed. So yes, at Florida he got by with those weaknesses as a QB, but they were still weaknesses as a QB. If someone doesn't have those weaknesses, they are a better QB than he is.
Purdy will get drafted so not sure what you're getting at