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I'm not trolling. Purdy is better than Seneca and it's not even debatable IMO

I didn't say you were trolling about this. Just that you're overselling it. This offense would be way worse with Seneca? The staff that turned Kyle Kempt into a winning quarterback is going to take Seneca and make the offense way worse? This staff puts its quarterbacks in winning situations.
 
I'm done arguing about Purdy vs. Seneca.

I'm glad we had them both and they are both great ISU QB's. I really don't care if some people think one is better than the other.

But if you are going to argue one way or the other, I think it's best if you've seen both play live and in person several times..... and I have.... so I can at least offer an opinion based on my own eyes. Others may have also seen both play in person and have a different opinion, and that is fine by me. As I said, they are both great and I'm glad they were Cyclones!
 
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Yes. Brock is a lot better than Seneca. Like Sage said it's not even a debate

If you're under the age of 35, please don't bloviate w/ the "Brock is better than Seneca" claim

It's like the "Lebron > MJ" debate.

You have no idea WTF you're talking about

Seneca in 2002> starts 6-1. ranked in the top-10 despite a horrible O-Coordinator.
Oklahoma drill us the next game--and ISU goes 1-6 to finish season w/ loss to Boise St

The last 7 games? The opponent knew EXACTLY our entire offense, every play.

Some of Seneca's WR's in 2002?

Ryan Baum
Todd Miller
Jack Whitver

(not exactly Lazard, Butler, or even Akers)

Seneca would be 9-0 with this team today

period
 
If you're under the age of 35, please don't bloviate w/ the "Brock is better than Seneca" claim

It's like the "Lebron > MJ" debate.

You have no idea WTF you're talking about

Seneca in 2002> starts 6-1. ranked in the top-10 despite a horrible O-Coordinator.
Oklahoma drill us the next game--and ISU goes 1-6 to finish season w/ loss to Boise St

The last 7 games? The opponent knew EXACTLY our entire offense, every play.

Some of Seneca's WR's in 2002?

Ryan Baum
Todd Miller
Jack Whitver

(not exactly Lazard, Butler, or even Akers)

Seneca would be 9-0 with this team today

period
I'll agree with Sage on this one
 
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If you're under the age of 35, please don't bloviate w/ the "Brock is better than Seneca" claim

It's like the "Lebron > MJ" debate.

You have no idea WTF you're talking about

Seneca in 2002> starts 6-1. ranked in the top-10 despite a horrible O-Coordinator.
Oklahoma drill us the next game--and ISU goes 1-6 to finish season w/ loss to Boise St

The last 7 games? The opponent knew EXACTLY our entire offense, every play.

Some of Seneca's WR's in 2002?

Ryan Baum
Todd Miller
Jack Whitver

(not exactly Lazard, Butler, or even Akers)

Seneca would be 9-0 with this team today

period
I’m way past that “over 35” qualification.

A. Brock is better than Seneca.

B. This team would not be 9-0. First because we still would have been dealing with COVID repercussions against UL, second because Brock doesn’t play special teams, defense or left guard.

pardon me if I don’t bloviate, but I just obviated your argument.
 
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If you're under the age of 35, please don't bloviate w/ the "Brock is better than Seneca" claim

It's like the "Lebron > MJ" debate.

You have no idea WTF you're talking about

Seneca in 2002> starts 6-1. ranked in the top-10 despite a horrible O-Coordinator.
Oklahoma drill us the next game--and ISU goes 1-6 to finish season w/ loss to Boise St

The last 7 games? The opponent knew EXACTLY our entire offense, every play.

Some of Seneca's WR's in 2002?

Ryan Baum
Todd Miller
Jack Whitver

(not exactly Lazard, Butler, or even Akers)

Seneca would be 9-0 with this team today

period
QB takes to much credit for W&L's, football is a team game.
 
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I think a lot of you might be prisoners of the moment. You are comparing apples to oranges with Purdy and Wallace. Different QBs. I was at Arrowhead for the 2002 game vs. Florida State and also in Kinnick for the 2002 win vs. arguably the best Iowa team ever. In both instances Wallace freakin put the team on his back. He ran like a receiver and could roll left at full speed and throw across his body on a DIME. The way he bent his torso and threw across his body was Mahomes esque. Brock Purdy is the perfect QB for Campbells system. Its an interesting argument. I think if Wallace played in this system with a top tier defense and a couple elite playmakers his efficiency/turnover numbers would have been far more impressive. Wallace made plays athletically Brock is not capable of. Purdy might have a bit more moxy however and the "it" factor. Absolutely love both of them! Purdy is a stud!





I was at the Florida St game and Iowa game @ Kinnick in 2002 a few rows up from the Iowa bench

Wallace torched Iowa’s d-backs for 400 yards— a defensive backfield with at least 3 future NFL players and others future pros on their defense

most of ISU receivers or tight ends in 2002 wouldn’t of started for UNI

I love Purdy but Wallace was on his own. And Purdy’s coaching staff is light years better

hell Purdy’s tight ends are more talented the last 3 years than the previous 30 years COMBINED
 
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Wins. Total yards. Completion percentage. Yards/completion. TD/Int ratio. Rushing TD. Passing TD.Total TD.

I'm having a hard time understanding why the person with the vast majority of these all-time school records is not the best simply because his arm strength may not be as good. People on here complaim about the "eye test" when it comes to CFP selection and then use that very same unmeasurable thing when the stats don't favor their chosen player.

Player X owning these stats don't make Player Y or Player Z a bad player.
I think it’s more that it is pretty hard to compare a guy that’s played with Breece, Montgomery, Butler, Kolar, etc to the guys Wallace played with. The offense had no other guys that made an NFL roster. The defense had Hobbs as a Soph as the only guy besides Wallace on the roster that got drafted. Not surprising the year after ISU fielded one of its worst team in history.
 
I think it’s more that it is pretty hard to compare a guy that’s played with Breece, Montgomery, Butler, Kolar, etc to the guys Wallace played with. The offense had no other guys that made an NFL roster. The defense had Hobbs as a Soph as the only guy besides Wallace on the roster that got drafted. Not surprising the year after ISU fielded one of its worst team in history.
Try his junior year.

And I find it interesting you chose to skip over Jordan Carstens.
 
Try his junior year.

And I find it interesting you chose to skip over Jordan Carstens.
Carstens wasn’t drafted. Tyson Smith also had a cup of coffee in the league as an undrafted player from the 2002 team. Still no offensive players on the roster that made an NFL team Wallace’s senior season.

Wallace’s Jr year there was Mike Banks, who was a 7th round pick and made the Cards for a couple years.
 
And what did the defense rank that year? I posted this already so..
Don’t care.

I was referring to the fact that Seneca had a solid OL in front of him, and Ennis Haywood running the ball his junior year.

The difference in talent surrounding Seneca and Brock respectively doesn’t account for all of the statistical differences between the two.
 
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Don’t care.

I was referring to the fact that Seneca had a solid OL in front of him, and Ennis Haywood running the ball his junior year.

The difference in talent surrounding Seneca and Brock respectively doesn’t account for all of the statistical differences between the two.
Why are you bringing up defensive tackle Jordan karstens then?
 

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