Saying Brock isn't the best doesn't mean he's a bad player. Having watched both play, I can't say Brock is better than Seneca.
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Seneca had some of his best runs for a 2 yard loss that any other qb would have lost 5-6.
Guy was running for his life far more than any Campbell era qb will be.
Without Seneca that team would’ve won 2 to MAYBE 3 games at the very most.
Guy threw absolute accurate bullets, his high int numbers were because he was playing sandlot ball for teams that really weren't that good (it's hard for me to bag on ISU players but you get it).
In the 5-7 games we played similarly matched opponents his accuracy was through the roof.
Seneca's senior year Iowa State faced 14 teams on their schedule. Seven finished in the top 25 including four in the top 10.
This the crux of the issue; people have different opinions. So let's remove opinions and look at objective stats.
Comparing across eras is always tricky.
Terry Bradshaw had a completion percentage of 51.9%....also 4 championships and a HOF member.
Compare that to 2020 and those numbers get you sent home.
Different offense and surrounding cast. For mobility, ability to throw on the run (under duress), and the ability to will a team to win. I'm team SW.
Hell the team got to #9 with SW at QB.
Troy is right up there and I'm not sleeping on Sage and Reggie Hayward either. They should get some love too
Sure if you would like to then its obviously Brock. I would argue his teams around him garner those greater stats, not to mention his 3 years vs 2 years for Seneca.
Seneca was amazing. Brock is great, but he's not amazing.
Seneca's first few games had me absolutely blown away with the accuracy and power of his arm. We were not running a fancy offense by any means and there were no weapons like our recent backs, TEs and WR. The line could not complete against top 40 level teams so he ran around playing sand lot ball and slinging it.
Look at how he dominated Iowa in that comeback. There are 3-4 Hawkeyes in the backfield constantly, that game he beat them with freak throws and runs, another week those are INTs.
No love on here for Osemele?
Actually, I think a great argument could be made for Keith Sims myself.
If we finish out this year and next year strong the debate does probably switch to Brock or Breece.
I go back to mid 90s and I'd throw TD and Seneca in there. Tough because TD's teams didn't win and Seneca was 2 year jr/st. Lazard deserves a mention, definitely Mr Cyclone.
I do think Rose is on pace for best defensive player of that era of my own 25 year fandom.
I go back to mid 90s and I'd throw TD and Seneca in there. Tough because TD's teams didn't win and Seneca was 2 year jr/st. Lazard deserves a mention, definitely Mr Cyclone.
I do think Rose is on pace for best defensive player of that era of my own 25 year fandom.
Top five in order:
Troy Davis
Allen Lazard
Brock Purdy
David Montgomery
Seneca
Give Breece one more season and he will easily crack that top five list. Reggie Hayward and Kelechi Osemele just missed the cut.
Troy Davis
Allen Lazard
Brock Purdy
David Montgomery
Seneca
Give Breece one more season and he will easily crack that top five list. Reggie Hayward and Kelechi Osemele just missed the cut.
Before my time, but George Amundson needs to be on top 5.