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[madguy30]

In what scenario does a loss to an Iowa or UNI benefit us more than being 3-0 against garbage teams? Did those losses to Iowa help us win the conference lately?

I'm sure the coaching staff can identify weaknesses in practices and in camp, as well even during these garbage games. These games would also give us valuable time to play and coach our depth. Hopefully they'd give our starters both stats and rest. We learn rough lessons in conference play as-is, we're still going to do that either way. We should be stacking W's as much as possible, 'cuz at the end of the day, any W is greater than any L.

Putting the bravado and bragging rights aside and just looking purely at program state, there's never a reason to take a non-con loss. We've taken, what, 5 of them in 4 years?

A reliable W would be fine, although playing a team that is really sound fundamentally, like Iowa and UNI usually are, is beneficial for real-game situations and your deficiencies will be exploited.

Maryland sure didn't seem to enjoy doing what they wanted yesterday and couldn't respond.

My issue is the UNI game would have been good film to learn from, and I didn't see a ton of improvement last night aside from opening it up in a trick play and going after an inexperienced secondary.

 

[Bigman38]

In what scenario does a loss to an Iowa or UNI benefit us more than being 3-0 against garbage teams? Did those losses to Iowa help us win the conference lately?

I'm sure the coaching staff can identify weaknesses in practices and in camp, as well even during these garbage games. These games would also give us valuable time to play and coach our depth. Hopefully they'd give our starters both stats and rest. We learn rough lessons in conference play as-is, we're still going to do that either way. We should be stacking W's as much as possible, 'cuz at the end of the day, any W is greater than any L.

Putting the bravado and bragging rights aside and just looking purely at program state, there's never a reason to take a non-con loss. We've taken, what, 5 of them in 4 years?

Yes. Remember when we changed our base defense after watching a mediocre Iowa team run them over?

There isn’t a coach in the country that’d agree with the line of thinking that you don’t need to play good teams to find out what you’re weaknesses are.

 

[CyGuy5]

I have no issue with playing Iowa. It’s a good test early in the season. I do have an issue with playing UNI

 

[CycloneErik]

Good god this chicken little bs is tired. We could have and probably should have won the game. We went full ISU and lost. This game needs to be played every year.

This says it all. Crazy dude makes sense.

 

[Bigman38]

That didn’t happen. We actually changed after Akron.

Right, they implemented it on the bye week. If you think that means what I said isn’t true you haven’t paid attention.

 

[CyBobby]

You are acting like a petulant little toddler after 1 loss. Get over it, who would you to replace Iowa with? South Alabama, Youngstown State? Get over it

I would replace TOE with someone we can beat, that way we only have to win three conf games to become bowl eligible.....Sure worked for Bill Snyder when he got to Kans State.....

 

[Urbandale2013]

I would replace TOE with someone we can beat, that way we only have to win three conf games to become bowl eligible.....Sure worked for Bill Snyder when he got to Kans State.....

Are people being serious? This game should never end.

 

[CyBobby]

I honestly get no enjoyment out of this at all. Hate this game and can’t wait for it to be over.

Hey Bryce C.....did you hear what CMC said to Eric Heft before he signed off...and I quote from CMC..."as a staff we have to get this rivalry thing figured out".....I wrote it down when he said it and CMC is right on that sentiment...Its either that or keep Losing to TOE ......

 

[CyCrazy]

Yes I’d rather play either of those teams.

And I’ve been on the record about wanting this ended for years.

It’s not one loss. It’s 5 straight. It’s 3-9 in the last 12.

My god you are unreal. So quit and walk away and play a team we pay half a million to come to Ames? This is not common sense.

 

[BCClone]

I couldn’t disagree with this more. Sounds like a great way to guarantee some rough lessons in conference play.

This team knows it’s weaknesses and has a month to fix them before conference play starts. They aren’t competing for the big 12 the last two years playing 3 powder puffs.

I like keeping a better P5 on our schedule but the vampire disagrees with having non con cupcakes hurts you. He loaded up and did pretty well.

 

[Gunnerclone]

In what scenario does a loss to an Iowa or UNI benefit us more than being 3-0 against garbage teams? Did those losses to Iowa help us win the conference lately?

I'm sure the coaching staff can identify weaknesses in practices and in camp, as well even during these garbage games. These games would also give us valuable time to play and coach our depth. Hopefully they'd give our starters both stats and rest. We learn rough lessons in conference play as-is, we're still going to do that either way. We should be stacking W's as much as possible, 'cuz at the end of the day, any W is greater than any L.

Putting the bravado and bragging rights aside and just looking purely at program state, there's never a reason to take a non-con loss. We've taken, what, 5 of them in 4 years?

This lack of competitive spirit in the fan base is killing this team!

 

[Bigman38]

I like keeping a better P5 on our schedule but the vampire disagrees with having non con cupcakes hurts you. He loaded up and did pretty well.

He’s a HOF coach. Minnesota does it successfully and they’re still garbage. CPR swept up bad competition in the non con too, it just didn’t matter once big 12 play started. It didn’t help recruiting, it didn’t help visibility.

Empty wins are just that, I’d rather watch a team give itself the best chance to compete in conference than rack up wins against nobodies.

Look in a week ISU will be 2-1 against 3 decent opponents, and I think you’d have a real hard time finding a coach that will tell you they’re worse than they’d be if they just beat 3 middle eastern techs.

 

[madguy30]

He’s a HOF coach. Minnesota does it successfully and they’re still garbage. CPR swept up bad competition in the non con too, it just didn’t matter once big 12 play started. It didn’t help recruiting, it didn’t help visibility.

Empty wins are just that, I’d rather watch a team give itself the best chance to compete in conference than rack up wins against nobodies.

Look in a week ISU will be 2-1 against 3 decent opponents, and I think you’d have a real hard time finding a coach that will tell you they’re worse than they’d be if they just beat 3 middle eastern techs.

CPR got absolutely smoked by NDSU. SMOKED.

He also got rung up by UNI and lost at Toledo.

And Kansas State and Kansas didn't build their programs around beating lower teams (they actually lost to plenty). They did it by being consistent and winning in the conference.

And Iowa State is where it is because of what they've done in conference all the same.

 

[kingcy]

The game is good for the state. The fans going back and forth isn't always good.

 

[CyclonesRock]

Relax, We will get a chance at a rematch with Iowa if we both win out putting a 12-1 Big XII Champion ISU and a 13-0 B1G Champion Iowa both in the CFP.

 

[FarmClone]

What a bunch of whiny little *******. We shoved Iowa around yesterday but couldn’t keep from stepping on our dicks. Clean stuff up and we will be fine. I look forward to beating Iowa next year.

 

[AlaCyclone]

I like the Game and the Day! I say this as someone who grew-up out of state but graduated from Iowa State and recently moved back to the Cyclone State after 24 years. I'd hate to see the game go away. If it ever does, it will be missed by both schools and the state IMO. For one thing, there would not have been GameDay in Ames this Saturday without Cy-Hawk. Now ISU is on the GD Radar like Des Moines is on the NCAA Tournament Radar.

Tough loss, but ISU would be glowing today if they had won (2-0 and a solid ranking with a P5 OOC victory under their belt). You know what? Even with the loss, ISU showed what type of team they can be. A solid win over ULM will send them into the Big Xii (2-1) with as good of a shot as anybody to make the Big Xii Championship Game @ Arlington. Tip of the cap to the Hawkeyes for winning a gritty game. Let's Go State! Beat the WarHawks!

 

[cycloner29]

We all had a great time. I mean all the clone and hawk fans we tailgated around it was a fun time and I was there already early Friday. One of the reasons this is good for the state is all the money it brings to each local economy when they play. If you wanna watch them play, you gotta pay!!

 

[BCClone]

We all had a great time. I mean all the clone and hawk fans we tailgated around it was a fun time and I was there already early Friday. One of the reasons this is good for the state is all the money it brings to each local economy when they play. If you wanna watch them play, you gotta pay!!

Economically it’s good for Ames and Iowa city. It doesn’t move the needle for other communities.

 

[RoseClone]

I totally get it. I don’t care and think it’s not relevant. IMO this athletic department should be doing things that benefit the program not the state.

This is also not even mentioning the fans on both sides that just cannot handle themselves with any sort of class. I had some terrible interactions with rival fans yesterday without doing anything. “Well it’s a rivalry”. I’m almost 40 years old. I have no desire to deal with the human embodiment of a twitter troll.

I gave up season tickets years ago because I don't like our fan base either. Whinny crybabies.