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2011-12 MBB Expectations

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imnclone

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It is probably good that expectations may be tempered for the upcoming season.

Personally I do not think any of the recent events will affect our upcoming season. It is disappointing to lose Godfey, but our hope for a good season is more dependent upon the transfers and and jc transfer Mcgee living up to expectations and all of them gelling as a team. No need to get too down this time of year.

Plus I have read several comments by Bobby Lutz that gives me confidence in Fred. He was obviously impressed by CFH during his time here.

Here is one of Bobby's quotes. I have seen others too. Do you think he would bother mentioning this in a wolfpack article if he didn't mean it

"I know very well at my age the history and tradition of NC State basketball, two national championships that I remember very vividly," Lutz noted. "For me to have a chance to be back in the state, No. 1, but I wouldn't have just left Iowa State for anywhere. I liked it there. I had a great position. Fred Hoiberg is a great guy to work with and for.


TheWolfpacker.com - Bobby Lutz excited about opportunity
 
I am hoping for a tourney bid. I still think that is realistic and our expectation should still be that, IMO. We lost some depth in our front court with CG. Hopefully we can land Percy and that will soften the blow.
 
I still think we can finish in the top half of the conference. For one think, the B12 wasn't exactly dominant this past year and I see no sign that it is changing for the better. Secondly, Fred had us within striking distance of many games last year and we will certainly have more depth, scoring ability, rebounding and defense with our current roster than we had in 2010-11.

If the transfers are as good as advertised, we could be in a pretty good position.
 
There are so many unkowns for next year it is hard to predict what the team will do. Royce White has never played one game of college basketball. How good is McGee really because it is hard to tell with JC guys? Will the team gell? Will Chris Allen produce more in a different system? Same with Booker. Will Railey still be on the team? Will we be too thin in the front court? But, there is no doubt that we have more talent and depth than previous years. I think expectations are so high because of the fact that we have more depth and talent and also there are a lot of unknowns.

If Royce White is as good as he is hyped, if Chris Allen and Booker are better players in a more uptempo offense, if McGee is half as good as he was in JC and if the team Gells then there is no reason why the team can't finish near the top of the big 12 next year.
 
Very Good Teams:
Kansas - will pretty much always be in this category in the pre-season

Good Teams:
Texas - I don't trust a Rick Barnes coached team, but they will always have talent
Texas A&M - losing their coach hurts, but they have a lot coming back and are a solid team
Baylor - tons of talent, another top recruiting class, will probably still finish near .500

Unproven/Question Marks:
Kansas State - lots returning but is it any good?
Mizzou - some proven talent, but I think they have a down year
Oklahoma State - losing Moses is going to hurt but they have the #3 SF coming in
Iowa State - we need to leapfrog a bunch of teams and get into the good teams section to go dancing
Texas Tech - lost a TON but have some decent recruits coming in. Still won't be very good.
Oklahoma - awful last year, I don't see them getting much better
 
How will fans feel if we have an okay year and maybe only make the nit?

I'll be a little disappointed but as long as I see improvement I'll be happy with the programs direction.
 
I think the team will do very well in the pre-conference games, although I am not 100 per cent sure of the schedule. Probably a record similar to or slightly better than last year.

In conference, I hope for .500. The Big 12 will be down slightly next year, so that will help. But then, ISU has to play teams like Texas and Baylor twice instead of once, so that will hurt too.

I would love to see ISU get 20 wins, and then make a run in the Big 12 tourney. There still is a season-ending tourney, right? I'm not sure an NCAA bid is reachable next year, but I would hope at least an NIT bid could be expected.
 
I expect to be in the NCAA tournament. As to how far we could go or a seed, I don't know. We have a lot of hungry players with talent who have been sitting a year waiting for this.
 
BigBake said:
How will fans feel if we have an okay year and maybe only make the nit?

I'll be a little disappointed but as long as I see improvement I'll be happy with the programs direction.
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Personally I think that should be the expectation. Improvement and an NIT invite. I'm obviously going to be spending all year in Hilton cheering for the NCAA tourney invite, but as I stated in my above post, we will need to finish in the top 5 of Big XII to be considered a likely Tourney team and I'm not sure if that is possible.
 
BigBake said:
How will fans feel if we have an okay year and maybe only make the nit?

I'll be a little disappointed but as long as I see improvement I'll be happy with the programs direction.
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Agreed. It would be a disappointment, but as you said, you can't be too dissatisfied with improvement.

Improvement will allow Fred to boost his recruiting prospects.
 
Dryburn said:
I think the team will do very well in the pre-conference games, although I am not 100 per cent sure of the schedule. Probably a record similar to or slightly better than last year.

In conference, I hope for .500. The Big 12 will be down slightly next year, so that will help. But then, ISU has to play teams like Texas and Baylor twice instead of once, so that will hurt too.

I would love to see ISU get 20 wins, and then make a run in the Big 12 tourney. There still is a season-ending tourney, right? I'm not sure an NCAA bid is reachable next year, but I would hope at least an NIT bid could be expected.
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Yes, there will still be a conference tournament.
 
BigBake said:
How will fans feel if we have an okay year and maybe only make the nit?

I'll be a little disappointed but as long as I see improvement I'll be happy with the programs direction.
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Hmmm. All depends on what we did in the NIT. A NIT final four (or better) like the 03-04 'Clone team would go a long way toward appeasing my disappointment.
 
I expect them to make the tournament and I am sure they will. I don't think any fans should expect any less. That being said if we barely miss out on the tournament and play in the Nit that wouldn't really be disappointing for me.
 
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Too early right now to even guess on expectations. Don't know what the completed roster will be for the season, and I haven't seen any of the new guys play together.
 
I'm uncertain about what's truly possible because of so many sight-unseen parts of the puzzle. I got tired of reading about the scout team last season — and it wasn't because I didn't believe there was probably a lot of potential, and that a year off-court could pay dividends, but that it was continually referenced as a dangling carrot for 2011-12 even when last year's team was within about 4 wins of landing in the NIT.

That said, an NCAA bid ought to be the minimum goal. I won't call it a minimum expectation — a lot of that will depend on non-conference schedule and the overall strength of the New Big 12. I'm sure there could be circumstances that would make an NIT bid palatable. I'll know it when it happens.

I can set the bar lower than I'd prefer, but how long must that suffice? Heck, Morgan's last team and probably 3 of GMac's teams were within 3 wins of serious postseason contention. If Fred is going to succeed, he should be able to at least get Those Wins in the coming season.
 
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