2010 recruiting class
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If players fall into the categories of guard, wing or post, Oliver and Ejim are clearly wings.
Eh, we're talking apples and oranges here and it's mostly irrelevant, but Oliver is an okay ball handler and has an outside game (not much of a slasher and can't play inside). He would definitely rather play outside of the arc if it were up to him. I know we don't have much to go off of, but of the handful of times I've seen him play, this is what I've gathered. Ignore his height and watch him play and you'll see what I mean.
I'll bet 6,000,000 credits says you never see him at the guard postion.:wink:
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I can't match you credit wise, so I'll take my 3.2 million credits and throw in rights to my signature for 1 month.
No. I said I'm beginning to think he's part of the problem. By that, I meant that he is not helping us win games with the way he plays. He is far too inconsistent. For every game in which he scores 30+ points and helps us almost beat KU, he'll have a game where he shoots 5 for 15 from the floor and we end up losing a game we should have won.
I do think Brackins is a good guy and I'm glad that he stayed another year. I was just hoping to see a much more physical Brackins this year. I guess I got my hopes up that he would have a breakout similar to Fizer in 2000, but it seems that he just doesn't have the size and strength to dominate in the paint like I had hoped. ISU has never been successful without a dominant presence in the middle (and we haven't had one since Homan graduated).
Every player has games like that. A game after Sherron Collins dropped 33 he went 7 for 20 from the field, 2 to 10 from 3 point range, and had 4 TO's in a loss to Tennessee.
He just looks a lot more consistent than CB because of his supporting cast
DG, Lucca, Booz, etc have huge holes in their game. Lucca is probably one of the best pure "shooting" guards in this league, but he struggles with handling and taking it to the hoop. We all know this. Every team knows it. Most other off guards we play are well ahead of him in this area. This hurts us. It's huge for teams that have guards that can penetrate and handle. One of our key penetrating positions doesn't penetrate. No threat. Lucca's talented, and I love his shot (I am the inventor of the phrase "Staiger-Bomb" afterall; yes it's true), but he hasn't shown to be well-rounded.
DG hasn't shown the ability to stretch a defense. He's been pretty good at getting into the paint at times. But defenses know they can sag bigtime off DG because he will not hurt teams from downtown (and yes I realize Balbay also cannot shoot but DG is nowhere near the athlete or defender Balbay is). He's also not that particularly great at hitting the pull-up jumper. I feel his finishing at the hoop has improved and personally I'd like to see him off the ball more, more as a slasher off the wing, because as I've stated before, I just do not think his ceiling as a point guard isn't very high. I just never felt it was his natural position. Slasher position maybe? lol I don't know.
And then there's Booz, with all his heart and effort, which I love, cannot handle or shoot consistently or probably even defend consistently enough to be considered a well-rounded Big 12 guard.
I almost don't even want to post this because it feels like I'm dissing our players. I don't mean to. I like DG, Lucca, Booz, all of them. I think they are talented and solid Big 12 recruits. But I just can't help but wonder how this years team would be with a guard or two like DeMarcus Philips...
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An able warm body at the 4 or 5 spot is a definite need. Along with (like I have said for 2 years now) a PG (cough, DG, cough) able to hit a wide open top of the key 3 pointer.
Imo, all we should hope for from JVB as far as minutes next year would be to provide breathers for Dendy and Hambone. His game is not suited to play inside the lane, where a 6'11 player belongs.
Any Juco bangers the staff is looking at?
Imo, all we should hope for from JVB as far as minutes next year would be to provide breathers for Dendy and Hambone. His game is not suited to play inside the lane, where a 6'11 player belongs.
Any Juco bangers the staff is looking at?
bummer.
How about 4-5 position targets that can come in a provide meaningful minutes? The above mentioned 4 from Indian Hills, any others?
Bummer. All the other teams in the Big 12 seem to be able to find one. I had hoped Pomlee might be a physical player when we recruited him but that didn't work out. ISU isn't going to be able to out-finesse or out-gun too many teams in the Big 12. You need to be able to grab a rebound once in a while.
I totally agree. I'm hoping Phillips can be a scorer at the two and make up for some of Gilstrap's loss, but we are not going to replace Brackins with anyone nearly as talented next year. This needs to be the year we make our run, which doesn't look promising at this point, but there is a lot of season left.
It's this way with every recruit we get. Remember during the year Lucca was forced to sit out how we all thought he was the answer to our problems? Not a knock against Lucca, he has been a serviceable starter for two years now, but he does not have the ability to consistently take over games (except against Drake). I heard people with similarly high expectations for Garrett, Buckley, and Colvin before they arrived on campus. Again, Garrett is serviceable. Buckley is an okay reserve. Colvin is too young to really gauge at this point, but it's not like he stepped in right away and became a go-to guy.
I hope Phillips is different. I hope he is good enough to be the answer to our inconsistent guard play. I'm just saying that we have thought the same to be true about our recruits in the past, and it never seems to turn out because it's all relative to the guards that our competition is recruiting.
Plays at a consistent, under control pace with killer crossover. Shoots it decent...free throws are a question mark at times. Capable of defending, but he doesn't know it yet. Very good at creating for teammates. There is an edge/attitude with him that rubbed me wrong at first, but definitely grew on me. Much better with the ball than off the ball. A little shorter than I expected, but has a frame that will fill out. Appeared that he lost some weight since this summer.
We ultimately need more help at the post positions. PF and C are our needs for the future. Ham is good but not great.
Hope our front line looks like this(assuming no Brackins):
Hamilton
Dendy
Vanderbeken
Railey
Wilkins?