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2009-2010 Season evaluations

buckleyfan said:
buckley made some mistakes, but he was generally better at getting the ball into the paint to our post players than garrett. and his 3 pt shooting (43 % in conferense) was a nice surprise. i still don't understand why he didn't get that much playing time. i think buck easily should have played over colvin in many circumstances. buck's defense wasn't great but neither was our team's other perimeter options anyway.

and i do like both garrett and colvin. i felt like everytime buck entered the game he was instant offense, either a made 3ptr or a very nice entry pass that would set up cb, hamilton, or dendy within 5ft of the rim that would catch the d offguard . the d would be used to garrett dribbling around in a circle.
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He made 9 threes all year, so I don't know about that part. I do agree he's pretty smooth at getting it into the post, and post-entry is for some reason something our guards have struggled with for the past 3 years or so.

Also, if you want a look at plus/minus for Brackins, and crapload of other stats here's a link... Craig Brackins Stats - Iowa State Cyclones - College Basketball

It doesn't paint a pretty picture.
 
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cy1010 said:
He made 9 threes all year, so I don't know about that part. I do agree he's pretty smooth at getting it into the post, and post-entry is for some reason something our guards have struggled with for the past 3 years or so.

Also, if you want a look at plus/minus for Brackins, and crapload of other stats here's a link... Craig Brackins Stats - Iowa State Cyclones - College Basketball

It doesn't paint a pretty picture.
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wow cy1010 very nice link! it really ain't pretty. most big12 games we did play better without cb on the court. that's not good for an allconference/allamerican player.

and true dbuck only made 9 threes but he only really had one crack at it a game 15 minutes into the first half when our team is already in a very bad position. i mean he came off the bench and produced while being cold and also knowing he would be pulled after 1 minute came off the game clock. say what you want about how big an offensive threat dg, colvin, and christoph were, but none of it warrants the little gametime opportunities he had.

oh, and the reason we struggled with post-entry the last three years is because our pg is not that pure of a pg. i like dg and i think he brings enough, but a jamaal, will blalock, or even a horton/nurse he is not at distributing the ball. also part of the blame is the lack of creativity with throwing it into brackins every play where you know no matter what the defense is, a shot will be taken after the pass.
 
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buckleyfan said:
wow cy1010 very nice link! it really ain't pretty. most big12 games we did play better without cb on the court. that's not good for an allconference/allamerican player.

and true dbuck only made 9 threes but he only really had one crack at it a game 15 minutes into the first half when our team is already in a very bad position. i mean he came off the bench and produced while being cold and also knowing he would be pulled after 1 minute came off the game clock. say what you want about how big an offensive threat dg, colvin, and christoph were, but none of it warrants the little gametime opportunities he had.
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Maybe. I'm not going to pretend to know who should've gotten more PT. It's really 4 guys for 2 spots. Just kind of hard to get minutes for everyone.
 
McD gets an F..... reasons are obvious to anyone who watched the season so don't ask me why. Sick to my stomach that he is coming back.
 
How can anyone give Dendy or Colvin a better grade that Brackins??? Dendy lied to the coaches and players on when he was returning and Colvin walked out on his teammates and coaches. Plus colvin shot horribly from the field, although he is a better passer than DG. Dendy only had a couple good games and made one of the worst decisions of the season against UNI.

Brackins was forced to take more outside shots because DG and other people couldn't feed him the ball in the post. There were numerous times when Hamilton or Brackins had great position and no one could get them the ball. Also our offense was not focused on getting the ball to Brackins, i.e. there were long stretches in the game sometimes for almost ten minutes where Brackins would get one touch. When he was passed the ball in the post and double teamed the rest of the team stood around looking like they didn't know what to do. The players should be moving trying to get open and that is not Brackins fault that is coaching.

DG had a good assist to turnover ratio but most of that was built in the non-conference he was not as good during the conference games. Think back to the second half start by Texas in the first meeting. It was garret that kept turning the ball over and the other guards as well. And it was our coach not calling a time out and chewing them out for turning it over, and not trying to stop the run and do something different to get the ball up the court.
 
rholtgraves said:
Brackins was forced to take more outside shots because DG and other people couldn't feed him the ball in the post. There were numerous times when Hamilton or Brackins had great position and no one could get them the ball. Also our offense was not focused on getting the ball to Brackins, i.e. there were long stretches in the game sometimes for almost ten minutes where Brackins would get one touch. When he was passed the ball in the post and double teamed the rest of the team stood around looking like they didn't know what to do. The players should be moving trying to get open and that is not Brackins fault that is coaching.
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First of all why is this different from last year? we have the same guy feeding the post. Second of all Hamilton and Dendy did not disappear even though they weren't usually part of the offensive set. They would generate a lot of offensive rebounds, putbacks, and hustle balls. i agree we do a very poor job off the ball cutting.
 
"First of all why is this different from last year? we have the same guy feeding the post. Second of all Hamilton and Dendy did not disappear even though they weren't usually part of the offensive set. They would generate a lot of offensive rebounds, putbacks, and hustle balls. i agree we do a very poor job off the ball cutting."

The only thing different this year is the double teams on Brackins and his shooting percentage. I was just pointing out that you can't justify putting Dendy and Colvin as a higher grade for their performance this year than Brackins. I agree that Hamilton had a solid year and with a better starting PG may have had an even year offensively.

Here is a good quote from a draft analysis that pretty much sums it up.

"we identified Brackins as one of the prospects who wasn’t benefiting from the play of their teammates. Little has changed in that regard this season, as Brackins still has to create most of his offense on his own, earns very few easy baskets around the rim working off the ball, and is relied on as a go-to-scorer virtually all the time. "
 
Im not saying Brackins had an amazing year, It was below people's expectations but you can't say that he had a worse year than Colvin and Dendy especially with their off the court crap.
 
rholtgraves said:
How can anyone give Dendy or Colvin a better grade that Brackins??? Dendy lied to the coaches and players on when he was returning and Colvin walked out on his teammates and coaches. Plus colvin shot horribly from the field, although he is a better passer than DG. Dendy only had a couple good games and made one of the worst decisions of the season against UNI.

Brackins was forced to take more outside shots because DG and other people couldn't feed him the ball in the post. There were numerous times when Hamilton or Brackins had great position and no one could get them the ball. Also our offense was not focused on getting the ball to Brackins, i.e. there were long stretches in the game sometimes for almost ten minutes where Brackins would get one touch. When he was passed the ball in the post and double teamed the rest of the team stood around looking like they didn't know what to do. The players should be moving trying to get open and that is not Brackins fault that is coaching.

DG had a good assist to turnover ratio but most of that was built in the non-conference he was not as good during the conference games. Think back to the second half start by Texas in the first meeting. It was garret that kept turning the ball over and the other guards as well. And it was our coach not calling a time out and chewing them out for turning it over, and not trying to stop the run and do something different to get the ball up the court.
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Who was passing the ball to Brackins last year? Either he was missing shots he used to make or he was taking bad shots. He was not aggressive going inside when he got ball. He settled for outside shots too often. The stat link given earlier in this thread tells a lot but watching the games told more. When we were in close games CB seemed to disappear. In one game, he put us on his back. Guess which game. Nebraska and we won. Outside of that there wasn't a game we lost that was close and CB carried us and kept us in it.
 
DG - F - Not a threat to score. Never made plays happen. Could not make entry passes to save his life.
SC - D+ - Saw tiny sparks of life from him this year. But I mean TINY. Severa games where shooting was just aweful. Cost a few games becuase of it. Not that we had anything else to go to. Terrible on ball defender.
MG - C+ - Great job rebounding. Decent scorer, at times. Was never "go-to" when a bucket was needed
CB - C+ - Still a treat that other teams had to respect. Tried to do too much and took too many bad shots. Gave up trying to get posistion too much. A lot was do to missed chances to get him the ball down low.
JH - C - Came on nice later in the season with his rebounding. Was never a threat to score. Needed to be more aggresive. Never had plays called to get him the ball.
LD - D - Where was he before the last couple of games?
CC - D+ - Terrible shot selection and finishing ability. Careless with the ball. Could make some great passes sometimes. Showed flashes of being good.
DB - D - Hard to grade because he rarely saw the floor for large strechs. Hard to evaluate when a guy plays in 2-3, 2-3 minute stretchs in a game.
 
yaman3 said:
Who was passing the ball to Brackins last year? Either he was missing shots he used to make or he was taking bad shots. He was not aggressive going inside when he got ball. He settled for outside shots too often. The stat link given earlier in this thread tells a lot but watching the games told more. When we were in close games CB seemed to disappear. In one game, he put us on his back. Guess which game. Nebraska and we won. Outside of that there wasn't a game we lost that was close and CB carried us and kept us in it.
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I agree he is not as aggressive as he can be going to the basket at times. But that is not the time of player he is. He is a jump shooting big man. That is what he was last year and that is what he is this year. He just didn't make as many shots this year as he did last year. But big men usually aren't relied on to create their own shots. They are usually dependent on their guards to get it to them in the right position to score. And you are really don't know what you are talking about if you think that we would have been even close in a game without Brackins. All we would have had as an offensive threat would have been Gilstrap and the scores of the games would have looked a lot more like the did the past two years instead of actually keeping it close for awhile. Look at all the top teams in the country and figure out what the common denominator is. Ill give you a clue...good guard play which we have not had under the current coach.
 
CRAZYGREG said:
DG - F - Not a threat to score. Never made plays happen. Could not make entry passes to save his life.
SC - D+ - Saw tiny sparks of life from him this year. But I mean TINY. Severa games where shooting was just aweful. Cost a few games becuase of it. Not that we had anything else to go to. Terrible on ball defender.
MG - C+ - Great job rebounding. Decent scorer, at times. Was never "go-to" when a bucket was needed
CB - C+ - Still a treat that other teams had to respect. Tried to do too much and took too many bad shots. Gave up trying to get posistion too much. A lot was do to missed chances to get him the ball down low.
JH - C - Came on nice later in the season with his rebounding. Was never a threat to score. Needed to be more aggresive. Never had plays called to get him the ball.
LD - D - Where was he before the last couple of games?
CC - D+ - Terrible shot selection and finishing ability. Careless with the ball. Could make some great passes sometimes. Showed flashes of being good.
DB - D - Hard to grade because he rarely saw the floor for large strechs. Hard to evaluate when a guy plays in 2-3, 2-3 minute stretchs in a game.
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Exactly! Perfect job
 
simple....
"D" expectations turned out lower than the talent we had on the floor. Should have been better everything had excuses, tired of excuses I want production next year.

I graded the whole TEAM as a team, its never ever a individual accomplishment.
 
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rholtgraves said:
I agree he is not as aggressive as he can be going to the basket at times. But that is not the time of player he is. He is a jump shooting big man. That is what he was last year and that is what he is this year. He just didn't make as many shots this year as he did last year. But big men usually aren't relied on to create their own shots. They are usually dependent on their guards to get it to them in the right position to score. And you are really don't know what you are talking about if you think that we would have been even close in a game without Brackins. All we would have had as an offensive threat would have been Gilstrap and the scores of the games would have looked a lot more like the did the past two years instead of actually keeping it close for awhile. Look at all the top teams in the country and figure out what the common denominator is. Ill give you a clue...good guard play which we have not had under the current coach.
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You still didn't answer my question. What is different this year? Was Lucca that much better at getting CB the ball in these great spots than anyone else? I don't think so. I am not saying he didn't help keep us in game but when it got to the 5 minute mark, he disappeared. I think a lot of us figured on us winning 5-6 game simply because CB would not let us lose. That was not the case. I am not saying he let us lose, I am saying he didn't carry us, on his back to wins in close ones.
 
CRAZYGREG said:
DG - F - Not a threat to score. Never made plays happen. Could not make entry passes to save his life.
SC - D+ - Saw tiny sparks of life from him this year. But I mean TINY. Severa games where shooting was just aweful. Cost a few games becuase of it. Not that we had anything else to go to. Terrible on ball defender.
MG - C+ - Great job rebounding. Decent scorer, at times. Was never "go-to" when a bucket was needed
CB - C+ - Still a treat that other teams had to respect. Tried to do too much and took too many bad shots. Gave up trying to get posistion too much. A lot was do to missed chances to get him the ball down low.
JH - C - Came on nice later in the season with his rebounding. Was never a threat to score. Needed to be more aggresive. Never had plays called to get him the ball.
LD - D - Where was he before the last couple of games?
CC - D+ - Terrible shot selection and finishing ability. Careless with the ball. Could make some great passes sometimes. Showed flashes of being good.
DB - D - Hard to grade because he rarely saw the floor for large strechs. Hard to evaluate when a guy plays in 2-3, 2-3 minute stretchs in a game.
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So Diante was our worst player? I cannot take anything else seriously after you say that. Sorry.
 
rholtgraves said:
Diante wouldn't start as PG for any other school in the big 12, well maybe Nebraska but doubt it.
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Absolutely he was our worst player. SC, no matter how bad he shot, he keep shooting. Other teams had to still send a defender his way in case he started to hit. MG and CB, well they are much better than DG. JH was a much more dependable and did more for the team than DG. Towards the end of the year LD showed that he had to be reckoned with but ONLY at the end of the season. CC at least TRIED to make things happen, he gets some points for effort. Same goes for DB, points for effort. DG - straight terrible ALL year long. Did NOTHING to help the team.
 
People on this board keep harping that DG is not a PG. Well that is what he plays at ISU. He is IN FACT a starting PG in arguably the toughest conference in the country. So that is what he needs to be evaluated on. Whether it is his fault or the coaches for forcing him to be the PG. Sorry he is just a terrible PG.
 
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