Tough day for EIU hoops hopes

True, but wingspan, vertical, and barefoot height will be make or break for a listed 6'7 wing, even for a sharpshooter. Unless he has PG skill and be seen as combo with backup PG potential, which he does not.

2nd round picks are generally treated as glorified UDFAs. Gabe and Conditt are both in the GLeague and their lot is no different than 95%+ of guys taken in the 2nd round.

I would argue it would benefit him to go Undrafted and grow his skillset and profile in Europe for a year or two, then try to sign a two way with a little bit of professional cache on his resume.
Sometimes in the NBA I feel it's better to have 1 elite skill vs just being good but not great at everything. Sandfort could have that in shooting and his release is so quick that he doesn't need a lot of room. He still needs to get alot better defensively if he's going to even be a 10th-12th man but I don't think anyone thought Korver would be 15 year player
 
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Sometimes in the NBA I feel it's better to have 1 elite skill vs just being good but not great at everything. Sandfort has that in shooting and his release is so quick that he doesn't need a lot of room. He still needs to get alot better defensively if he's going to even be a 10th-12th man but I don't think anyone thought Korver would be 15 year player
Something tells me you never watched Korver in college.
 
Sometimes in the NBA I feel it's better to have 1 elite skill vs just being good but not great at everything. Sandfort has that in shooting and his release is so quick that he doesn't need a lot of room. He still needs to get alot better defensively if he's going to even be a 10th-12th man but I don't think anyone thought Korver would be 15 year player
I like Sandfort. But he wont get anything approaching volume state-side, and he still disappears at times.

I will say some of this is probably because they have to use him as a number 1 scoring threat with this roster, when he is really better suited as a number 3 catch and shoot spacing guy, more similar to a JorBo or Wisekamp with Garza or the Murrays.

In the NBA he will have to produce at near a 50 percent clip every touch he gets. Not saying he can't do it, but two bad shooting nights will put you relegate you for months or more in that situation. Any established role player in the NBA will tell you opportunity is everything.

Better to build that reputation in Europe with a longer leash surrounded by established Euro pros for spacing trying to win a championship than in Fort Wayne where a ball dominant has-been is trying to force his way back off the greyhound circuit back into rotation.
 
True, but wingspan, vertical, and barefoot height will be make or break for a listed 6'7 wing, even for a sharpshooter. Unless he has PG skill and be seen as combo with backup PG potential, which he does not.

2nd round picks are generally treated as glorified UDFAs. Gabe and Conditt are both in the GLeague and their lot is no different than 95%+ of guys taken in the 2nd round.

I would argue it would benefit him to go Undrafted and grow his skillset and profile in Europe for a year or two, then try to sign a two way with a little bit of professional cache on his resume.
College Basketball >>>>>> NBA
 
I like Sandfort. But he wont get anything approaching volume state-side, and he still disappears at times.

I will say some of this is probably because they have to use him as a number 1 scoring threat with this roster, when he is really better suited as a number 3 catch and shoot spacing guy, more similar to a JorBo or Wisekamp with Garza or the Murrays.

In the NBA he will have to produce at near a 50 percent clip every touch he gets. Not saying he can't do it, but two bad shooting nights will put you relegate you for months or more in that situation. Any established role player in the NBA will tell you opportunity is everything.

Better to build that reputation in Europe with a longer leash surrounded by established Euro pros for spacing trying to win a championship than in Fort Wayne where a ball dominant has-been is trying to force his way back off the greyhound circuit back into rorotation.
I agree. He's not even hitting at a high enough clip yet to warrant a draft pick because shooting is the only trait he's going to be drafted for. He needs to get to a 40% clip next year.
 
Something tells me you never watched Korver in college.
All the time. Korver had elite shooting. Much more consistent than Peyton. Korver lasted so long because he had 1 supreme skill though and then worked on the other areas to be serviceable. That's what Sandfort will have to do.
 
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Not nearly as athletic or good defensively as joe. Joe was way more passive though.

Agreed. If Joe hunted shots like that he would have been damn near unstoppable at Iowa. He just disappeared way too much. I always loved his game though. It’s clear he had another gear in him that not a lot of other guys had. He just rarely did it.
 
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All the time. Korver had elite shooting. Much more consistent than Peyton. Korver lasted so long because he had 1 supreme skill though and then worked on the other areas to be serviceable. That's what Sandfort will have to do.
In what world is Sandfort an elite shooter and in any way comparable to Korver? Sandforts best shooting year, this year, is still only 38% from 3 and he plays in an offensive system where he only has to play token defense. Korvers worst shooting year was 43% and he shot 48% his senior year. Thats 10% better than anything Sandfort has done. Korver was elite throughout his whole college career and then took another leap in the pros. Sandfort isn't in the same stratosphere as Korver. It's a dumb comparison.
 
In what world is Sandfort an elite shooter and in any way comparable to Korver? Sandforts best shooting year, this year, is still only 38% from 3 and he plays in an offensive system where he only has to play token defense. Korvers worst shooting year was 43% and he shot 48% his senior year. Thats 10% better than anything Sandfort has done. Korver was elite throughout his whole college career and then took another leap in the pros. Sandfort isn't in the same stratosphere as Korver. It's a dumb comparison.
I'm not comparing them. I'm saying sandfort needs to follow the korver playbook. He needs to improve his 3 point shooting and try to make it by having an elite skill. That's what I said. I've already said Sandfort needs to improve his shooting percentage if he plans on making it in nba because that's only thing that will get him drafted. If you can have 1 elite skill you can play in the NBA was point I'm making. I wouldn't call Sandfort’s shooting elite yet but why he's being shown in mock drafts is because some people project him to become that.
 
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In what world is Sandfort an elite shooter and in any way comparable to Korver? Sandforts best shooting year, this year, is still only 38% from 3 and he plays in an offensive system where he only has to play token defense. Korvers worst shooting year was 43% and he shot 48% his senior year. Thats 10% better than anything Sandfort has done. Korver was elite throughout his whole college career and then took another leap in the pros. Sandfort isn't in the same stratosphere as Korver. It's a dumb comparison.
He's closer to Adam Emmenecker than Korver.

And much like iowa's entire roster.... he also would be better off at Drake.
 
Agreed. If Joe hunted shots like that he would have been damn near unstoppable at Iowa. He just disappeared way too much. I always loved his game though. It’s clear he had another gear in him that not a lot of other guys had. He just rarely did it.
Even though he was a good player he could of been better I think we agree I that
 
Sandfort's issue is he still takes bad shots, but he is an elite shooter and it is why he is considered a second rounder this year.
 
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I'm not comparing them. I'm saying sandfort needs to follow the korver playbook. He needs to improve his 3 point shooting and try to make it by having an elite skill. That's what I said. I've already said Sandfort needs to improve his shooting percentage if he plans on making it in nba because that's only thing that will get him drafted. If you can have 1 elite skill you can play in the NBA was point I'm making. I wouldn't call Sandfort’s shooting elite yet but why he's being shown in mock drafts is because some people project him to become that.
Ok, fine. Yes, if he follows Korvers playbook, raises his 3 point percentage by 10%, and magically becomes one of the best shooters in the game in the last year and a half of his college career his pro prospects will go way up. Point taken. Of course you can make this point about literally any other college player, but your fantasyland logic is unassailable I guess.
 
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Ok, fine. Yes, if he follows Korvers playbook, raises his 3 point percentage by 10%, and magically becomes one of the best shooters in the game in the last year and a half of his college career his pro prospects will go way up. Point taken. Of course you can make this point about literally any other college player, but your fantasyland logic is unassailable I guess.
Yes he needs to be one of the best shooters in the game that's exactly it. Why do you think he's listed on mock drafts? For his defense? Or do you think maybe people smarter than us think with his shot he can become a knock down shooter?
 
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