Tough day for EIU hoops hopes

Probably both. I feel Garza is the only one that has won the Wooden award.
I would say Doug McDermott and Nick Collison are right up there with him. I would probably say McDermott is the most decorated with Garza being second and Collison third but if you put more value on post season success some might have Collison higher having taken his team to two final fours and been on the all tournament team on the team that went to the championship game against Syracuse.

McDermott was three time conference player of the year in two different conferences. three time consensus first team all american. Two time conference tournament MVP and also won the Wooden award. He swept the national player of the year awards same as Garza. Probably has a few more awards than Garza. So I think he has an argument.

Collison only one of the national player of the year awards but he had the most post season success in making back to back final fours and being on the all final four team in one of them. Conference player of the year, when he left Kansas he was the big 12 leader in scoring and rebounding and I think he left KU as second in scoring and third in rebounding.
 
I would say Doug McDermott and Nick Collison are right up there with him. I would probably say McDermott is the most decorated with Garza being second and Collison third but if you put more value on post season success some might have Collison higher having taken his team to two final fours and been on the all tournament team on the team that went to the championship game against Syracuse.

McDermott was three time conference player of the year in two different conferences. three time consensus first team all american. Two time conference tournament MVP and also won the Wooden award. He swept the national player of the year awards same as Garza. Probably has a few more awards than Garza. So I think he has an argument.

Collison only one of the national player of the year awards but he had the most post season success in making back to back final fours and being on the all final four team in one of them. Conference player of the year, when he left Kansas he was the big 12 leader in scoring and rebounding and I think he left KU as second in scoring and third in rebounding.
McDermott would be 2nd IMO. Garza was a two time national player of the year and that is probably what separates them in my mind.
 
Is Bobo talking about Iowa not being a good place as a head coaching job?

Didn't they have roughly 20 years of consistently good success before they ran Davis out?

What's Iowa State's excuse?
 
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Is Bobo talking about Iowa not being a good place as a head coaching job?

Didn't they have roughly 20 years of consistently good success before they ran Davis out?

What's Iowa State's excuse?
Closer to 50. Pops Harrison to Bucky O'Connor to Ralph Miller to Lute to Raveling to Dr Tom.

All those guys had .650+ winning percentages other than Raveling and he left the cupboard more than full for Dr Tom.
 
Is Bobo talking about Iowa not being a good place as a head coaching job?

Didn't they have roughly 20 years of consistently good success before they ran Davis out?

What's Iowa State's excuse?

I found that comment really odd. I get it though, JorBo freakin loves Fran....
 
LOL Fran gets zero credit for the development of Garza or the Murray's. Frans rosters have always been flawed, he just got away with it because of these guys. JorBo has gotten a lot of mileage out of playing with those guys...
And, Fran's system will elevate a single player, even if it is not the best for the team. All of the focus on offense lets a player put up numbers that voters like. Take that same player and put them on a team that at least thinks about playing hard at both ends of the floor and they don't have the gaudy numbers.
 

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