F*CK IOWA
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I remember posters on here making fun of NW one year because they did good in the Big 10 and won the west, but did terrible in the Non-con. Well that seems to happen to ISU every year.
Without dissecting the losses, that record doesn't look good I would agree. But most of those losses do come to Iowa. You have three other losses that came from UNI year 1 (horrible loss) and then against a very solid Louisiana team in 2020 and then Ohio this year. Neither of those losses should've happened. Really no excuses.
But then you have losses in bowl games where we had good teams and we played very good teams. #13 Wazzu, #12 Notre Dame and #14 Clemson. No excuses, as I think we should've beaten Wazzu and probably even Clemson, but those are quality losses. Louisiana and Ohio are not and regardless of the sickness card, should've been wins.
Oh come on. The Iowa offense in particular is a national laughing stock for the past 2-3 seasons, no matter what team you root for. You can't deny that.
Sir, if ISU made the Big 12 title game going 8-4 losing all three non conference games including to a 4-8 Akron, you would have an argument.
Yes and it pisses ISU fans off. ISU doesn't ever seem ready to go in September. One of Cambell's flaws IMO.
Yep ask any ISU fan what Campbell's main flaw is and it's always that they don't seem ready to go in September, EVER.
To be fair northwestern did a total disservice to the West that year going 0-3. They used to always get better as season went though with Fitzy sans last couple. Oklahoma State made championship and they started rough too. They had 1 of the worst non conference losses in power 5 this year.
Rivalry + national joke + having to deal with moron Iowa fans who believe they're actually a quality 10 win team is why we make fun of Iowa. This year's team is the actually epitome of Colin Cowheard's fake ID. If Ole Miss has everyone play, these next two games could be a combined loss of over 40+ points.
Even in the Louisiana loss in 2020 with arguably our best team ever. That was bad.
What team has been better the past decade when you take everything into account? I think there is a clear line between Iowa and ISU.
Even Iowa has had a couple bad losses in non conference play in that stretch. ND State and Northern Iowa come to mind right away. But I do agree the CMC teams tend to start slow every year, and it has been a source of frustration for ISU fans. I think this year it was expected given the high volume of underclassmen playing
That was actually a solid NW team too. They really screwed up a terrific year by losing to Duke and Akron.
I think the frustration for Iowa fans is that ISU fans act like the B10 West has been terrible for Kirk’s entire tenure and that’s the only reason for his and the program’s success. It’s false on multiple accounts. The Big10W is horrifically and historically bad this year and it was only marginally better last year. I and most Iowa fans concede that point. But prior to those years it’s been respectable but never great.
Regardless I’m happy this is the last year of divisions. It’ll be nice play a 2-3 bluebloods every year. Instead 1 or 2.
It's Iowa without blinking an eye lol. There are teams out there that just have your number and for ISU it's been Iowa. Hell, they've beaten us more consistently than any of our conference foes and Iowa hasn't been remotely as good as some of those teams we've beaten.
The big 10 west has not been good for many, many years. Edit: also Iowa and Illinois had by far the easiest cross over opponents during the east/west split. I ran an analysis on this about 9 months ago, but there was a huge discrepancy between Illinois/Iowa and the rest of the big 10 west for the cross over opponents. I was actually surprised how poor Illinois has been during that time given the easier schedule
The Big 10 West hasn't always been this bad but it's still been one of the weakest in CFB and Iowa gets to play in it. And when Iowa gets a draw of 1 or none of the top teams in the east and then beats up on the average to below average teams in the west, it's frustrating. I personally envy it because I'd much rather look at my records and see 9 and 10 win seasons, regardless of who my favorite team played.
What you're saying is true his teams do by my and most eyes say his team's get better as season progresses.
It's just ironic though that narrative here is Iowa only wins once they get to play west teams when actually between the 2 Iowa State does better inside the conference. Iowa also does pretty well against the East minus Michigan and Ohio State. In total I believe Iowa has a winning record vs the East since its inception
Kirks entire tenure is sooo long 25+ years. We're saying for the past 5-8ish years, the West has been pretty bad. The West has NEVER been this bad and it feels like I'm being constantly gaslit by Iowa fans saying it's such a good division.