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Let me also add in today’s world it’s ridiculous to penalize an undefeated FSU for their QB getting hurt when there’s nothing stopping any number of high-quality NFL prospects, even on playoff teams, from announcing they‘re sitting out for the draft and won’t be playing in the postseason.

You’ve got to measure teams by what they’ve actually done as a team, not how they might potentially perform with a player (or multiple players) missing. Georgia lost their stud TE for a few games, why aren’t they getting nicked for that? What if Corum goes out with an injury on the first play of the semifinal? What if, what if … shouldn’t it be the wins that count?
 
RezClone said:
Very unlikely with that offense.

It's not so much that Iowa isn't capable of beating any big 12 team in an isolated matchup, I think they are. But in the totality of the big 12 they absolutely stub their toe 3 to 5 times instead of once or twice against big ten west opponents. Counting on completely shutting down big ten west "offenses" is a not a big ask. They shut down themselves most of the time when Iowa isn't even involved.

Are the defenses better in the west? Idk, maybe. Even if so, iowa can't block, cant get open, and they definitely can't throw accurately. They are a lock to lose playing catchup at any point and you know it.
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It would be real eye opening for Iowa seeing a QB that is capable of a forward pass...
 
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KidSilverhair said:
Your “best” may not be the committee’s “best,” or anyone else’s “best.” That’s why we should limit the amount of human bias applied to the selections (I’m looking at you, committee) and have more objective qualifying criteria.

You win all your games in a P5 conference? That’s criteria number one.

You win the title of a P5 conference, with 1 loss or fewer? That’s criteria number two.

If that doesn’t get you four, or if you’re left with more than four, then you can start applying other measurements like head to head (hello, Texas), strength of schedule or whatnot. This “eye test” garbage or “we think team A would beat team B on a neutral field” or “this undefeated record doesn’t count because a starter went down” just introduces too much bias and tipping of the scales. I want less of that, not more … the notion of “we must have the four best teams“ automatically implies whose four best, which is not an objectively provable criteria.

I guess I lean more toward “deserving” than “best,” as you can set up criteria to measure that better … and in no world with four (or more) undefeated or one-loss conference champions should Ohio State be considered. Again, my opinion, but they couldn’t even win their division, why should they think they get a shot at best in the country?
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Until the ACC and SEC nut up and play 9 conference games this discussion is pointless. FSU at least played two quality OOC games and that should absolutely matter. I'm not saying I agree with what I posted above but the committee has shown that they have zero consistency on how this all gets settled. Whether we agree or not if things get shaken up at all, FSU playing with a backup will absolutely be a discussion point with the committee.
 
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Cyhig said:
You have no clue what the football power index is? I thought you followed college football

www.espn.com

2025 Big Ten College Football Power Index - ESPN

View the 2025 Big Ten conference College Football power index on ESPN. The FPI is the best predictor of a team's performance for the season.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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Iowa State played 3 big 12 teams below the lowest Big Ten West team according to this. Interesting
 
KidSilverhair said:
Your “best” may not be the committee’s “best,” or anyone else’s “best.” That’s why we should limit the amount of human bias applied to the selections (I’m looking at you, committee) and have more objective qualifying criteria.

You win all your games in a P5 conference? That’s criteria number one.

You win the title of a P5 conference, with 1 loss or fewer? That’s criteria number two.

If that doesn’t get you four, or if you’re left with more than four, then you can start applying other measurements like head to head (hello, Texas), strength of schedule or whatnot. This “eye test” garbage or “we think team A would beat team B on a neutral field” or “this undefeated record doesn’t count because a starter went down” just introduces too much bias and tipping of the scales. I want less of that, not more … the notion of “we must have the four best teams“ automatically implies whose four best, which is not an objectively provable criteria.

I guess I lean more toward “deserving” than “best,” as you can set up criteria to measure that better … and in no world with four (or more) undefeated or one-loss conference champions should Ohio State be considered. Again, my opinion, but they couldn’t even win their division, why should they think they get a shot at best in the country?
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You make very reasonable, rational and valid points.

I, on the other hand, am a very selfish CFB fan who wants to see what appears to be the "best" teams play each other.

This is not an NCAA sanctioned playoff - the NCAA has never officially crowned a D1/FBS National Champion.

This is a made for TV event funded by those greedy TV bastards, so I feel inclined to be a greedy CFB fan bastard in order to go along with the flow of things. :)
 
Cyhig said:
You have no clue what the football power index is? I thought you followed college football

www.espn.com

2025 Big Ten College Football Power Index - ESPN

View the 2025 Big Ten conference College Football power index on ESPN. The FPI is the best predictor of a team's performance for the season.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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I've heard of it, but have never really looked at it before. I usually just watch games for the most part and that usually consists of Iowa games and then if I have time I try to watch others that interest me.
 
1776 said:
How is Coach Campbell done against the horrible Big 10 West?
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BillBrasky4Cy said:
I love how you just continue to push your chips all in on one OOC game early in the season. With Iowa States schedule who does Iowa outscore?
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Probably the same teams that ISU outscored for starters.

And to answer my own question, he would be undefeated against Iowa if only he could play them in November.
 
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BillBrasky4Cy said:
LMAO no friggin way.
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I don't think so either. Stylistically, what they do works BECAUSE of the conference they play in. Seems like whenever Iowa does play a high octane offense, yes, they are still good, but it does get exposed over time. Just like Iowa State's does from time to time against Big 12 opponents. Iowa would have been middle of the pack Big 12 this year, similar to Iowa State, Kansas, K-State.
 
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1776 said:
Probably the same teams that ISU outscored for starters.

And to answer my own question, he would be undefeated against Iowa if only he could play them in November.
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Too funny. Iowa wins that game in Manhattan last weekend? Did they even put up 35 points in any game this year, that wasn't against a G5? MAC team?

Iowa probably does their thing successfully against Cincinnati, BYU, and maybe this years rendition of Baylor. Other than that, no. Just no.
 
KidSilverhair said:
Your “best” may not be the committee’s “best,” or anyone else’s “best.” That’s why we should limit the amount of human bias applied to the selections (I’m looking at you, committee) and have more objective qualifying criteria.

You win all your games in a P5 conference? That’s criteria number one.

You win the title of a P5 conference, with 1 loss or fewer? That’s criteria number two.

If that doesn’t get you four, or if you’re left with more than four, then you can start applying other measurements like head to head (hello, Texas), strength of schedule or whatnot. This “eye test” garbage or “we think team A would beat team B on a neutral field” or “this undefeated record doesn’t count because a starter went down” just introduces too much bias and tipping of the scales. I want less of that, not more … the notion of “we must have the four best teams“ automatically implies whose four best, which is not an objectively provable criteria.

I guess I lean more toward “deserving” than “best,” as you can set up criteria to measure that better … and in no world with four (or more) undefeated or one-loss conference champions should Ohio State be considered. Again, my opinion, but they couldn’t even win their division, why should they think they get a shot at best in the country?
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completely agree if Florida state goes undefeated and gets left out its opening a dangerous box. Ohio state had its 3rd string quarterback leaped over TCU and won the title.
 
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