We go 10-2 with Dekkers? Wow, that is bullish based upon how he played last year.
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Let's be fair to him. He had only 11 pass attempts on the entire year (completing 9), scattered over 3 games. Rocco has been fantastic, so even if Kohl was looking really good for a freshman QB, he was unlikely to see the field.
Assuming Kohl want to play P4 football, there’s nowhere he can transfer to and guarantee play right away.
There will be a ton of more seasoned, experienced QBs to choose from for those programs. There’s already 4 QBs who started at P5 programs this year in the transfer portal: Howard from KSU, Schapen from Baylor, Will Rogers from Mississippi State, and Van Dyke from Miami. There also will be highly successful QBs from lower levels (similar to Dillon Gabriel at OU or Cam Ward at WSU) who will want to move up a level for NIL and better competition. They will also be more desirable than Kohl.
There also will be higher-rated QB prospects than Kohl entering the transfer portal too who are in their sophomore, junior or senior seasons but have been backing up established starters (one to watch out for is Archie Manning).
I see him staying another year. But if he transfers this year for playing time it would likely be dropping down a level. Or he could transfer to backup a QB who is a junior or senior rather than a RS freshman. But he could do that next year just as easily.
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I think he was implying that Dekkers would have won 3-4 games rather than 7. Could be wrong. I don't think that's fair to Dekkers because we don't know how much he could have improved, but I will say that I am glad Rocco is our QB.
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Part of it was, Brock could run and do what he wanted. He had 2 other experienced QBs behind him. Rocco had JJ, a true freshman, and then a lightly recruited juco who was picked up to have someone if he went down. Rocco was bubble wrapped a little bit I believe.
Nate has not shown much for another team to hire him at this point.
And Jay Cutler was a good decision maker
I don't disagree, but I think there is one problem with your premise...
That's gonna be every year. Every year with the portal as currently construed - there are going to be players who are going to have played who are going to hit the portal from big schools. Or who were highly rated. Its just the new landscape. Its going happen every single year. So if Manning and a couple of the other new incoming freshman hit the portal next year - then its the same scenario. That's not changing.
That's why I think IMO now makes for him. Because A) he's closest to having played in a game so, be it high school or whatever. He's got the most elgibility he has. And he can bank on himself. At a new school, even if as a backup for a year. Because here, good and bad, what's gonna change? Nothing, in all likelihood. Rocco sure looks like a 4 year starter.
So that's why waiting - for what? His stock is only gonnna drop by waiting more. They'll be two years of not having film on him as opposed to one. He'll have one less year of elgibility.
I don't want him to leave but from a players POV - now would be the time. If you're going to bet on yourself that is. If you're happy to be somewhere and you don't really want to play right now and you just love the experience, then that's different. Everyone's got to decide that for themselves. But if you believe you are that guy and that good... waiting doesn't make sense.
Because everything you said is true... but its going to be true next year. And the year after. And the year after. QB's always going to hit the portal. Some of them experienced starters and others as highly sought after recruits. That's not changing. Right now, he has the most to offer in terms of his elgiblity. Waiting... only decreases his value in that regard since its highly unlikely he plays more than in 2-3 games next year in garbage time. Unless there's a lot of garbage time games, good or bad
The other new thing is - it doesn't really matter where you are at as a QB when it comes to the NFL. Or anywhere, really, but especially there. I think kids just want to play. Which I totally understand.
And just me being honest, if my options were sit on a bench and hold a clipboard or play... even at a slightly "lower" level... I get the draw for kids to transfer and try to play. I really, really do and don't hold any ill wills towards anyone who takes that opportunity since for 99%..... this is their last opportunity.
Cam Rising will be a 25 year old QB when we play Utah next season.
This is either a poorly written sentence or the worst take ever. Surely you don’t believe the team would have been better off with Dekkers.
Make this like free agency in baseball. If the young man is considered a 3* or better, you get an extra scholarship.
I think we beat Iowa and Ohio with Dekkers, but then later in the year we would have lost some Big 12 games with Dekkers that we won with Becht…. if that makes sense?
Becht started the year playing a little timid and the coaches didn’t let him do much. I think Dekkers would have been better at the start of the season IMO.
Becht started the year playing a little timid and the coaches didn’t let him do much. I think Dekkers would have been better at the start of the season IMO.
I agree at this point but the trajectory is there. And he not older like Heacock and may be more likely to want another, bigger challenge.
Dekkers got worse as last year went on. He could have been a turnover machine (which he had a tendency towards). With Becht behind him he might have been allowed to run more, becht didn't have as much behind him so they limited the offense a lot.
I would say another year, unless he would drop down to lower G5 type HC gigs. If he puts in another year and shows improvement then I would say a higher end G5 position would be possible.
I love what he's doing with CF and IE, but yeah I've learned over time that he's actually pretty bad at analysis. But also it is correct that he doesn't need to be good at it--get other people for that (which he does)
wow. I see what I did there. **** no we’re not Better off with dekkers
Sorry folks. I meant with dekkers, we have another year of 3-4 wins instead of 7 we had this year. I don’t believe we are better off with dekkers. I’ve been outspoken about this all year.
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I think everyone wants the Iowa, Ohio, and KU games back. Especially the Ohio and KU games, and those are games we should have won.
it would have been epic going 9-3 (losses to Iowa, OU and Texas) and finishing in a tie for 2nd in the B12 coming off that gambling issue and a freshman QB.
But sometimes losing makes you better, so you never know with these things.
Who knows with Dekkers. The only thing I know he would probably do better is on those 3-1's.
it would have been epic going 9-3 (losses to Iowa, OU and Texas) and finishing in a tie for 2nd in the B12 coming off that gambling issue and a freshman QB.
But sometimes losing makes you better, so you never know with these things.
Who knows with Dekkers. The only thing I know he would probably do better is on those 3-1's.
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I'd say he's a 1-2 away from a good "lower" job. He might get a lower lower job now but why would you want that? Like, no offense to ULM, but honestly, why? Etc.
As for Heacock... IDK. Sometimes I think his age might make him more apt to try one more time as a HC? Maybe not but maybe at some point he figures he wants one go before heading off into the sunset?