Discussion on tie breakers.. it sucks..

I feel like they kind of got caught with their pants down. You don't expect something this complicated to happen in the one year at 14 teams and they weren't even contemplating 16 when these were written.
 
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One True Campion! Do we remember Baylor and TCU a few years ago? This conference just can’t plan ahead for anything. It’s always reactive instead of proactive. Very frustrating.
The league was doing the right thing at the time. For years nobody cared if a league without a championship game (remember the Big 12 was barred by the NCAA from having one at the time) crowned teams tied at the top as co-champs. It was just another ******** excuse to mold the playoff bracket the way the committee wanted to.
 
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The league was doing the right thing at the time. For years nobody cared if a league without a championship game (remember the Big 12 was barred by the NCAA from having one at the time) crowned teams tied at the top as co-champs. It was just another ******** excuse to mold the playoff bracket the way the committee wanted to.
It was just outcome-determinative pro Ohio State ********.
 
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It was just outcome-determinative pro Ohio State ********.
Unless there is a legitimate reason not to, a league should err on the side of awarding trophies and championship titles to each team that finished at the top of the bracket. In BB despite having to have a tiebreaker for conference tournament seeding the league awards trophies to all co-champs who finished with the best (equal) record in league play.

A ******** request after the season is done for the league to name a single team among tied teams as their sole champion is not a legitimate reason.
 
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I was bored and it looks like we can still make it even if we lose this weekend! (Takes a lot of help :D)

Edit: There are other ways too / some games dont matter
 
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We still need OU or OSU to lose once. In a four-way tie with OU, OSU, UT, ISU, or a three-way tie that drops Texas, OSU holds the tiebreaker for the #1 spot and OU holds the tiebreaker over ISU or ISU/UT combined for the #2 spot.
Makes no sense. How can OSU get in ahead of ISU in that scenario? Remember if we win out, we have a shot at 10 wins if we win the B12 championship. There's a lot on the line so ISU better make sure the B12 doesn't screw this up.
 
Makes no sense. How can OSU get in ahead of ISU in that scenario? Remember if we win out, we have a shot at 10 wins if we win the B12 championship. There's a lot on the line so ISU better make sure the B12 doesn't screw this up.
If it's OU, OSU, ISU, then each team is 1-1 in the round robin so it goes with record down the standings from there. If it's OU, OSU, ISU, UT, then nobody swept the other three and they didn't all play each other (UT didn't play OSU) so again it goes with record down the standings.

In either case (with or without UT), the next team down the standings they all played was Kansas. OSU and Texas both beat Kansas while ISU and OU both lost. OSU holds the tiebreaker over Texas based on overall record in common games (there's a weird fluke where they are equal in common games going down the standings but not overall because OSU was better vs OU and ISU than Texas was).
 
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OSU needs to be put on upset watch again. The remaining schedule is viewed by most as soft and they control their own destiny, so there's a good chance they will be feeling some pressure. We've seen it personally that Gundy coached teams can turtle in that situation in the past.

I don't think OU is losing another one.

The good news is, if the ball bounces ISU's way and OSU somehow loses in their 3 pm game on Saturday, our guys will know about it before kickoff against UT. At that point (not knowing all the weird scenarios) they'd have to feel like their job is just to win and be in after two weeks.
 
The good news is, if the ball bounces ISU's way and OSU somehow loses in their 3 pm game on Saturday, our guys will know about it before kickoff against UT. At that point (not knowing all the weird scenarios) they'd have to feel like their job is just to win and be in after two weeks.
I can confirm that, if OSU loses Saturday and ISU wins out, ISU is definitely in the CCG. The tiebreakers aren't very complicated in that scenario, and there's no place where there could be weird interpretations that might affect things.
 
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I can confirm that, if OSU loses Saturday and ISU wins out, ISU is definitely in the CCG. The tiebreakers aren't very complicated in that scenario, and there's no place where there could be weird interpretations that might affect things.
A 4 way tie is very clear too. It would go down to record against Kansas, so Iowa State is on the outside looking in. OSU and UT in that case.

If it's a 3 way tie with OU and OSU, OSU gets the top spot due to their win over Kansas then OU gets in due to Iowa State head to head.

A 3 way tie with OU and Texas, OU is top seed, then OSU based on head to head.

A three way tie with OSU, Texas and us is Obviously us as the top seed. Then ISU because they beat Oklahoma.
 
A 4 way tie is very clear too. It would go down to record against Kansas, so Iowa State is on the outside looking in. OSU and UT in that case.

If it's a 3 way tie with OU and OSU, OSU gets the top spot due to their win over Kansas then OU gets in due to Iowa State head to head.

A 3 way tie with OU and Texas, OU is top seed, then OSU based on head to head.

A three way tie with OSU, Texas and us is Obviously us as the top seed. Then ISU because they beat Oklahoma.
I think your last scenario is the best for ISU and the Big 12's future. **** OuT.
 
I am rethinking the 4 way tie with OSU, OU, Texas and ISU.

oSU and UT beat Kansas, so I assumed the 2 of them would get in, but you still have to break their tie. The tie breaker for the #1 seed would come down to winning % against OU and OSU. OSU wins that battle as the one seed.
Now you have a 3 way tie for the #2 seed. OU gets in due to beating both Texas and ISU.
 

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