I'd be surprised if he's not offered and he doesn't accept if all things are the same when it opens
Tough day for EIU hoops hopes
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This is a very interesting year for Devries. I live 5 minutes from Drake, go to some games every year and follow them closely. He assembled a good roster overnight and really outperformed expectations his first couple years, then all those guys got an extra year due to covid. But man they lost a lot. I looked at their roster yesterday and they only have his son and Darnell Brodie back with any meaningful experience. Almost the entire roster is new.
Devries is a good coach and would be a good hire for Iowa but if Drake takes a step back the next couple year’s it will be interesting to see the appetite among Hawk fans to hire him. Either way, they could do a lot worse.
Fran is a terrible recruiter, yes we agree. And yet he always has some weird combination of offspring, slow and unathletic types, and an All-American or two and it seems to work just enough to scratch the March Madness itch. Just enough
I agree I'd be happy and I think it'd be good fit. I'm in similar boat living nearby and going to knapp. Tonight should give us some idea Lipscomb isn't a bad mid major. Beat Louisville last year (who didn't) and close losses to notre dame and Michigan though not sure what they return. Ideally would of been package deal if it happens with Tucker but I'm afraid probably missed that window.
Tom Davis got run out because of Tim Floyd’s success.
I don’t think they will. They have good coaching and a few talented guys. Think they are a bubble team. Not great on the interior but I like their guards and they can shoot.
Enright is back as well. But I think they will be pretty good again. Got a few transfers.
Damn. Carver might be an improvement to the Knapp in terms of fan support. Devries will be very comfortable with all the empty seats in Carver. Drake is in one of its best stretches since Maury John and 5 minutes to tipoff the crowd for the opener is pathetic. I feel bad. The Knapp was rocking in 2007-08.
Keno Davis shouldn't have left. That was a mistake on his part.
TD would have Francis in his back pocket. Yes- much of his early success was with Georgie’s guys but TD still had to coach them to an Elite 8 and Sweet 16- plenty of coaches have screwed up talented groups. And, he had the insight to move Gamble at 6’6” from the 4 to the 2 where he had a great senior season and parlayed it into a solid NBA career. Same with Lohaus- moved him from the 5 to the 4 where he could trail into all those 3’s on the break, let Horton do the dirty work down low where he was better suited- worked out well for Lohaus also- long, solid NBA career.
Big 10 was a great basketball league in the 80’s-mid 90’s- Fran gets Nebraska, Minnesota, Northwestern, Rutgers 8x a year plus usually one of them one more time in the Big 10 tournament. That’s 8 or 9 you SHOULD win. Can’t think of 8-9 gimmes in the league back in 1988.
Nobody knows what Devries is thinking on next jobs but Creighton alumni base in the NIL era would be intriguing- not to mention they are a basketball school in one of the 2 best basketball leagues in the country.
The Iowa job isn’t viewed in the coaching fraternity the same as it was in 1986. It’s not even considered a sleeping giant anymore. It’s a lot closer to the Minnesota/Nebraska job than it is the Michigan or even Illinois jobs- it always cracks me up to hear the Iowa media speculate who they could get if Fran left- so far from reality. And the fanbase thought Notre Dame was going to take Fran off their hands for them a year ago. Shrewsberry makes Fran look like a HS jv coach.
Big 10 was a great basketball league in the 80’s-mid 90’s- Fran gets Nebraska, Minnesota, Northwestern, Rutgers 8x a year plus usually one of them one more time in the Big 10 tournament. That’s 8 or 9 you SHOULD win. Can’t think of 8-9 gimmes in the league back in 1988.
Nobody knows what Devries is thinking on next jobs but Creighton alumni base in the NIL era would be intriguing- not to mention they are a basketball school in one of the 2 best basketball leagues in the country.
The Iowa job isn’t viewed in the coaching fraternity the same as it was in 1986. It’s not even considered a sleeping giant anymore. It’s a lot closer to the Minnesota/Nebraska job than it is the Michigan or even Illinois jobs- it always cracks me up to hear the Iowa media speculate who they could get if Fran left- so far from reality. And the fanbase thought Notre Dame was going to take Fran off their hands for them a year ago. Shrewsberry makes Fran look like a HS jv coach.
What’s funny to me is how it parallels football. Long time coach, shades of nepotism, loads up Ws versus crap teams, but there’s a hard ceiling with their style of play and talent level that prevents them from ever doing anything nationally. They win just enough to avoid the hot seat. But bad teams have almost no chance against them. And good teams will make them look stupid.
Fran is your average Iowa fan. He truly is one of them, why they support him so much.
Unfortunately I think there will be a complete overhaul with both of those programs by 2025. Here's to hoping they go through a couple decades of suck as they struggle to figure out a new identity with both programs.
Probably true. And they have the money to hire established coaches with a track record, so that mitigates the risk some. Still, a HC hire is a crapshoot. Even good coaches that have won somewhere else can fail.
Davis was twice the coach Fran is.
Both the Iowa football and MBB program have been run in such a way and situated in a Big Ten (west) to guarantee a high floor but a low ceiling for a long time now. They've been consistently good, have to give that to them, but consistency mediocre with no chance to break out or be entertaining.
It'll be interesting how their next hires for football and basketball go under a new AD -- who you know is planning on bring in "their people" after what just happened to Brian. New regimes generally mean new coaches. It happened with Pollard, too, ditching Morgan and eventually McCarney for Chizik.
They might unlock a new gear... but they're just as likely to fall on their face, especially when the move is going to coincide with moving to a busier Big Ten without the protected easy schedule of the west. Swapping out Illinois and a blah Nebraska for Southern Cal and Washington won't help them out.
It'll be interesting how their next hires for football and basketball go under a new AD -- who you know is planning on bring in "their people" after what just happened to Brian. New regimes generally mean new coaches. It happened with Pollard, too, ditching Morgan and eventually McCarney for Chizik.
They might unlock a new gear... but they're just as likely to fall on their face, especially when the move is going to coincide with moving to a busier Big Ten without the protected easy schedule of the west. Swapping out Illinois and a blah Nebraska for Southern Cal and Washington won't help them out.