In memoriam of Brian Ferentz as Iowa's OC

It will be interesting to watch.

Will EIU flourish and reach new heights once the Ferentz family is gone? Or will they sink, demonstrating that Captain KKKirk was a pretty good coach after all?
The latter. He was a great coach who was the definition of consistency, assisted by incredible defensive coaching staffs. He was also the beneficiary of ridiculously easy conference schedules. BUT, he took advantage of that and won most of the games he should. His stubbornness on offense and inability to recruit good QBs held the program back from what could have been elite status. Now the transition potentiallly to a new regime along with the addition of west coast powers could very easily relegate them to Minnesota level status for a decade or more. My honest opinion.
 
If you think CMC treats the Cyhawk game as anything more than somewhere between a glorified scrimmage and a pre-season barometer to teach off of and opportunity to grow, then you aren't paying attention.

We're like 8 years into this. It's blatantly obvious that to the extent which CMC cares about actual wins and losses (which is dubious at best) starts somewhere around week 4 and doesn't really include actually beating iowa any more than it would to actually beat Lousiana Layaette or Ohio (which he for a FACT considers both those seasons a success)...In fact, i think you can make a very strong case he resents being judged in any capacity whether he beats iowa or not.

He's killing it in conference record wise, recruiting wise, culture wise, player development wise in the context of Iowa State historically. He loves that s***, and he's really into that stuff specifically. Winning Cyhawk games. Meh, not so much.

Sure there's a segment of the fan base that will never let him live that attitude down, but there's many more who kind of say it is what it is.

We have seen iowa consistently exposed against other opponents of some (or really any) notable legitimate strength like clockwork. We judge iowa just as much on that, if not more so, than head to head outcomes with Campbell's half-hearted tepid attempts to beat Iowa. And Kirk and Brian have been lacking in that department for some time, and to think otherwise is delusional. And they always double down lol. This firing represents an opportunity to see that reliable well-established concrete reality go away.

That is why it is a sad day for Cyclone fans.

There, explained.
Really wasn't meant as a dig at Campbell or Iowa state I was just saying that because that games really the only impact it has on Iowa State in regard to post I quoted
 
Are we seriously going back to the whole "CMC doesn't care about the Iowa game" thing?

Lol.
Oh he cares about it. He wants to see how our base stuff works against a solid system and how the kids respond to being put in a tough situations, etc. Lots of tape. Lots of teaching. He loves the iowa game.
He likes to make us try to "Out-iowa" and it's resulted in a bunch of losses, but it fits his greater aims conveniently enough.


Did you at least watch his press conference this year? Probs not. I think we're doing just fine. I'm enjoying this season quite a bit, and last year sucked. Sooooo...
 
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Really wasn't meant as a dig at Campbell or Iowa state I was just saying that because that games really the only impact it has on Iowa State in regard to post I quoted
Ok that's fair. Lots of ISU fans really like to watch iowa fail. It's probably not our finest quality, but I'm sure that's not news to you at this point. It's really as simple as that.

Maybe I went to far and should have left it at that. FTR, you're not typically as bad as the others and I recognize that.
 
Are we seriously going back to the whole "CMC doesn't care about the Iowa game" thing?

Lol.

The "ISU doesn't play its best September" thing is just a known quantity though...not at all exclusive to Iowa. Who knows why but we've seen the October turnaround enough times to almost expect it.

Ask Ohio, UNI, Louisiana and a majority of Big 12 openers.

September counts. I'm sure they cared about beating UNI, Ohio and Louisiana along with caring about Iowa.
 
The latter. He was a great coach who was the definition of consistency, assisted by incredible defensive coaching staffs. He was also the beneficiary of ridiculously easy conference schedules. BUT, he took advantage of that and won most of the games he should. His stubbornness on offense and inability to recruit good QBs held the program back from what could have been elite status. Now the transition potentiallly to a new regime along with the addition of west coast powers could very easily relegate them to Minnesota level status for a decade or more. My honest opinion.
I hope you are right!
 
The latter. He was a great coach who was the definition of consistency, assisted by incredible defensive coaching staffs. He was also the beneficiary of ridiculously easy conference schedules. BUT, he took advantage of that and won most of the games he should. His stubbornness on offense and inability to recruit good QBs held the program back from what could have been elite status. Now the transition potentiallly to a new regime along with the addition of west coast powers could very easily relegate them to Minnesota level status for a decade or more. My honest opinion.

Early in his tenure, like 4th season on he at times had Iowa playing maybe overall the best football ever in the modern era there. They were a legit Top Ten team a few seasons with good consistent football.

Fry had set a standard but it was kinda gimmicky and his schedules weren't much better.

I wouldn't be surprised if they fall hard for a few years, below Minnesota. If Kirk leaves, it will be the best time for him and the worst time for the program. Fine by me; they're due.
 
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What we learned today:
1. Gary Bart’s is gutless. He forced his successor to make a decision that he could have and should have made.
2. It is questionable if the current Iowa AD would have hired KF. KF is sexist and also gutless.
3. The Ferentz family business is morally bankrupt.
 
He was actually fired a while ago, but a glitch in payroll kept sending him paychecks. They just fixed the glitch.
I bet they were moving his desk/office around to different places all season. They probably stole his piss-yellow stapler too.
 
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Since there is a lot of comparing Barta and the new AD, will the new Iowa AD warn visiting teams that Iowa fans will pelt their cheerleaders with beer cans when things don't go their way? Barta liked warning visiting teams of Iowa State that Iowa fans may break into your lockeroom.
 
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And you might want to look up definition of naive.

Goetz was hired by Wilson to be Barta's replacement. She didn't leave her MAC AD job, to not become AD at Iowa.

She already did the interim AD gig at Minnesota.
Sure, I don’t disagree with that. However, the easy thing for her to do would have been to let the season run its course, stand behind Barta’s provision, not renew Brian’s contract and deflect to keep things somewhat amicable with Kirk.

Instead, She asserted herself signaling a new era, one Kirk probably isn’t going to like. Besides, there were many in this board that were convinced she wouldn’t can him even after season.
 
Since there is a lot of comparing Barta and the new AD, will the new Iowa AD warn visiting teams that Iowa fans will pelt their cheerleaders with beer cans when things don't go their way? Barta liked warning visiting teams of Iowa State that Iowa fans may break into your lockeroom.
She's a badass. I hope we can keep her.
 
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I don't like this. This is good for Iowa. Anything good for Iowa sucks!

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Lots of respect for Beth. Glad she posted that it was her decision.

Hope they don't hire her permanently. Again, because that would be good for the hawkeyes, and that's not good for anyone.
 
She's a badass. I hope we can keep her.

Iowa fans will not be saying that if the new head coach next year only wins 2 or 3 games the first few years. Iowa fans will be pissed that they let a Hall of Fame coach leave that just took them to the B1G Championship and a 10-2 season.

Iowa fans will be calling for Beth’s head if that happens. Look how much Iowa fans think they should have never let Tom Davis go…. and KF was 10x better than Davis.
 
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Iowa fans will not be saying that if the new head coach next year only wins 2 or 3 games the first few years. Iowa fans will be pissed that they let a Hall of Fame coach leave that just took them to the B1G Championship and a 10-2 season.

Iowa fans will be calling for Beth’s head if that happens. Look how much Iowa fans think they should have never let Tom Davis go…. and KF was 10x better than Davis.
Maybe if they're dumb. I'm sure we'll have a few down years transitioning to a new HC. Happened after Fry left too. She's going to be really good.
 

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