In memoriam of Brian Ferentz as Iowa's OC

[Allikat]

A Hawkeye in the know told me that when the 4 Pac 12 teams joined the B10 that KF was done. He does not want to go out West for games and he knows that without the doormats of the B10 West on the schedule every year that his job just got tougher. This is a sad day for Cyclone fans....I was hoping that KF had enough pull that he would slide Brian into the HC job. When Barta left the writing was on the wall.

If true then today is a sad day.

If true Beth Goetz did not need to announce that Brian would not be coming back now.

Confirmed, Beth has bigger balls than Barta.

By announcing it now mid-season she has made it clear that she is the boss and perhaps a competent one.

I miss Barta and Brian already.

 

[stateofmind]

I'm guessing they score like crazy now that the gloves are off. If KF is leaving he won't worry about restrictions on the offense. But at this point would it matter? But it may allow NW to score with more possessions.

 

[Marcelason78]

I think it's been made clear that Kirk wasn't on board with the decision, which makes me an even bigger fan of BG. KF's interested in doing what's best for his son and family, what's best for Iowa football has come in 2nd to that for many years now. She's put him on notice that Iowa football isn't the Ferentz Family Business any more.

Sure, everyone in the state knows what you‘re saying is true. The bad look for the Iowa AD, and Capt Kirk, is that the rest of the country now knows how disfunctional the hok football really program is.

 

[clonehome]

Offense is a game of confidence. This group of Hawk players have been so bad on offense for so long that they don’t expect to move the ball. It really doesn’t matter if they open up the playbook, they will struggle.

 

[tim_redd]

Now I hope they get the 33 points per game they need the rest of the way to reach the scoring average target.

 

[isucy86]

Firing a school’s legend’s son while still having Interim in front your name mid-season is a bold move no matter how you look at it.

Not if she was hired and has support of her boss.

 

[GoHawks]

A Hawkeye in the know told me that when the 4 Pac 12 teams joined the B10 that KF was done. He does not want to go out West for games and he knows that without the doormats of the B10 West on the schedule every year that his job just got tougher. This is a sad day for Cyclone fans....I was hoping that KF had enough pull that he would slide Brian into the HC job. When Barta left the writing was on the wall.

I don't get how it's a sad day for Iowa State? Could you explain. Recruiting is so national now and they're in different conferences. Even if the hypothetical new coach is better it's hard to see Iowa winning the 1 game vs Iowa State more than Kirk has recently. If anything I think this could be a good thing for Iowa State but I don't think it matters much as far as Iowa State is concerned

 

[CNECloneFan]

It will be interesting to watch.

Will EIU flourish and reach new heights once the Ferentz family is gone? Or will they sink, demonstrating that Captain KKKirk was a pretty good coach after all?

 

[4cy16]

Ed Podolak's reaction to the Brian Ferentz news.

 

[mikeiastat]

His future has to be NFL OL or TE coach if he wants to keep coaching which isn't a terrible way to make a living.

He may also just go into pharma sales or something. Hard to know.

I thought he was already fired from "pharma sales" when daddy had to quit trying to kill athletes with rhabdo.

 

[CyCrazy]

Not if she was hired and has support of her boss.

Sounds like the Prez agreed with Beth, Kurt is so butthurt that he cant control the AD anymore.

 

[RezClone]

I don't get how it's a sad day for Iowa State? Could you explain. Recruiting is so national now and they're in different conferences. Even if the hypothetical new coach is better it's hard to see Iowa winning the 1 game vs Iowa State more than Kirk has recently. If anything I think this could be a good thing for Iowa State but I don't think it matters much as far as Iowa State is concerned

If you think CMC treats the Cyhawk game as anything more than somewhere between a glorified scrimmage and a pre-season barometer to teach off of and opportunity to grow, then you aren't paying attention.

We're like 8 years into this. It's blatantly obvious that to the extent which CMC cares about actual wins and losses (which is dubious at best) starts somewhere around week 4 and doesn't really include actually beating iowa any more than it would to actually beat Lousiana Layaette or Ohio (which he for a FACT considers both those seasons a success)...In fact, i think you can make a very strong case he resents being judged in any capacity whether he beats iowa or not.

He's killing it in conference record wise, recruiting wise, culture wise, player development wise in the context of Iowa State historically. He loves that s***, and he's really into that stuff specifically. Winning Cyhawk games. Meh, not so much.

Sure there's a segment of the fan base that will never let him live that attitude down, but there's many more who kind of say it is what it is.

We have seen iowa consistently exposed against other opponents of some (or really any) notable legitimate strength like clockwork. We judge iowa just as much on that, if not more so, than head to head outcomes with Campbell's half-hearted tepid attempts to beat Iowa. And Kirk and Brian have been lacking in that department for some time, and to think otherwise is delusional. And they always double down lol. This firing represents an opportunity to see that reliable well-established concrete reality go away.

That is why it is a sad day for Cyclone fans.

There, explained.

 

[Cyched]

Sounds like the Prez agreed with Beth, Kurt is so butthurt that he cant control the AD anymore.

Is their Pres still the Golden Corral guy? Or do they have a new one

 

[farm85]

 

[7Got6]

Not if she was hired and has support of her boss.

You might want to look up the definition of interim.

 

[iahawks]

If you think CMC treats the Cyhawk game as anything more than somewhere between a glorified scrimmage and a pre-season barometer to teach off of and opportunity to grow, then you aren't paying attention.

We're like 8 years into this. It's blatantly obvious that to the extent which CMC cares about actual wins and losses (which is dubious at best) starts somewhere around week 4 and doesn't really include actually beating iowa any more than it would to actually beat Lousiana Layaette or Ohio (which he for a FACT considers both those seasons a success)...In fact, i think you can make a very strong case he resents being judged in any capacity whether he beats iowa or not.

He's killing it in conference record wise, recruiting wise, culture wise, player development wise in the context of Iowa State historically. He loves that s***, and he's really into that stuff specifically. Winning Cyhawk games. Meh, not so much.

Sure there's a segment of the fan base that will never let him live that attitude down, but there's many more who kind of say it is what it is.

We have seen iowa consistently exposed against other opponents of some (or really any) notable legitimate strength like clockwork. We judge iowa just as much on that, if not more so, than head to head outcomes with Campbell's half-hearted tepid attempts to beat Iowa. And Kirk and Brian have been lacking in that department for some time, and to think otherwise is delusional. And they always double down lol. This firing represents an opportunity to see that reliable well-established concrete reality go away.

That is why it is a sad day for Cyclone fans.

There, explained.

“Mr. Madison, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”

 

[AuH2O]

If you think CMC treats the Cyhawk game as anything more than somewhere between a glorified scrimmage and a pre-season barometer to teach off of and opportunity to grow, then you aren't paying attention.

We're like 8 years into this. It's blatantly obvious that to the extent which CMC cares about actual wins and losses (which is dubious at best) starts somewhere around week 4 and doesn't really include actually beating iowa any more than it would to actually beat Lousiana Layaette or Ohio (which he for a FACT considers both those seasons a success)...In fact, i think you can make a very strong case he resents being judged in any capacity whether he beats iowa or not.

He's killing it in conference record wise, recruiting wise, culture wise, player development wise in the context of Iowa State historically. He loves that s***, and he's really into that stuff specifically. Winning Cyhawk games. Meh, not so much.

Sure there's a segment of the fan base that will never let him live that attitude down, but there's many more who kind of say it is what it is.

We have seen iowa consistently exposed against other opponents of some (or really any) notable legitimate strength like clockwork. We judge iowa just as much on that, if not more so, than head to head outcomes with Campbell's half-hearted tepid attempts to beat Iowa. And Kirk and Brian have been lacking in that department for some time, and to think otherwise is delusional. And they always double down lol. This firing represents an opportunity to see that reliable well-established concrete reality go away.

That is why it is a sad day for Cyclone fans.

There, explained.

I don’t think it’s that Campbell doesn’t view the game as important. For whatever reason, ISU has played very poorly the first 1/3 of the season. His winning percentage overall in big 12 play is more than double his winning percentage in big 12 openers.

 

[RezClone]

I don’t think it’s that Campbell doesn’t view the game as important. For whatever reason, ISU has played very poorly the first 1/3 of the season. His winning percentage overall in big 12 play is more than double his winning percentage in big 12 openers.

Sure that's fair. And that's kind of what I'm saying is that he doesn't view it as any more important than anything else.

But we know he values growth and the process over everything else, and he in no way considers it a failure of any particulae significance as long as growth is achieved and significant development is achieved later on.

Would he prefer to go undefeated? Sure, who wouldn't...

If Campbell has his same record against iowa and has like a 25-30 percent winning percentage in conference this is obviously a different conversation.

Likewise going 7-1 against iowa with a bunch of really bad finishes wouldn't change a whole lot for him internally. We can debate if that would be enough to keep the fans satisfied (which iowa fans would love it if we thought the answer was yes)

The point really was iowa is not special and they get exposed all the time when they step out of their safe little big ten west play pen and it's sad to see it go away. Which is why they respond insecurely the way they do. Don't take the bait. It doesn't bother me, I enjoy how fragile they are.

 

[7Got6]

I don’t think it’s that Campbell doesn’t view the game as important. For whatever reason, ISU has played very poorly the first 1/3 of the season. His winning percentage overall in big 12 play is more than double his winning percentage in big 12 openers.

Anyone who watches him on sidelines knows he’s cares greatly about that game. If he doesn’t put stock in it, he’s a fool.

 

[Gonzo]

If you think CMC treats the Cyhawk game as anything more than somewhere between a glorified scrimmage and a pre-season barometer to teach off of and opportunity to grow, then you aren't paying attention.

We're like 8 years into this. It's blatantly obvious that to the extent which CMC cares about actual wins and losses (which is dubious at best) starts somewhere around week 4 and doesn't really include actually beating iowa any more than it would to actually beat Lousiana Layaette or Ohio (which he for a FACT considers both those seasons a success)...In fact, i think you can make a very strong case he resents being judged in any capacity whether he beats iowa or not.

He's killing it in conference record wise, recruiting wise, culture wise, player development wise in the context of Iowa State historically. He loves that s***, and he's really into that stuff specifically. Winning Cyhawk games. Meh, not so much.

Sure there's a segment of the fan base that will never let him live that attitude down, but there's many more who kind of say it is what it is.

We have seen iowa consistently exposed against other opponents of some (or really any) notable legitimate strength like clockwork. We judge iowa just as much on that, if not more so, than head to head outcomes with Campbell's half-hearted tepid attempts to beat Iowa. And Kirk and Brian have been lacking in that department for some time, and to think otherwise is delusional. And they always double down lol. This firing represents an opportunity to see that reliable well-established concrete reality go away.

That is why it is a sad day for Cyclone fans.

There, explained.

Are we seriously going back to the whole "CMC doesn't care about the Iowa game" thing?

Lol.