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its v. sad that McCarney is considered one of the greatest of all time coaches at iowa state with a 39% winning %.
that just how sad the history of iowa state football is
And some of the worst beatings in our history I think.32-55 for Rhoads… man things really fell off the track those last few years.
What sucked about those sanctions is we cheated and still sucked.Didn't ISU have penalties/sanctions stemming from recruiting violations under the Criner staff (ultimately led to his firing)?
Edit: Simple search says they lost 4 scholarships and put on probation for 2 years. Thought it was harsher than that and ultimately leading Walden's demise. Looks like that wasn't the case.
And some of the worst beatings in our history I think.
That’s a HELL of a name thoughThose Homer Hubbard teams were legit…
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What sucked about those sanctions is we cheated and still sucked.
Things were not finer.
We had some flag footballs games at the stadium that looked better.
You saw it go from decent to laughingstock. 89 we were 6-5 I think. That’s not bad.I know everyone talks about the turnaround CMC has done here and well deserving, but Coach Mac really did something close to a miracle. Granted, I have even said he benefitted from a weak North Division and getting to skip OUT to two years at a time. That being said though, there was nothing here for Mac to build on, it literally was a **** show.
I'm not trying to take away from CMC, but JP really did start to put some nice pieces in place before CMC got here. I started at ISU in 1990, watching the program go from bad to a laughing stock while I was at ISU, was pretty disheartening. I graduated in 1994, after watching 0-10-1 that previous season. The fact that Mac had us in a bowl game 6 years later is pretty miraculous, no matter who we were playing.
OK, all that being said, that list is really depressing.
You saw it go from decent to laughingstock. 89 we were 6-5 I think. That’s not bad.
They were really bad. What was also bad was we had a locker room with mice in the corners eating at shoulder pads, maybe 6 working showers in the locker room and no practice field. Our equipment was driven to games in a yellow-painted UHaul truck.You cant understate what Mac did. I graduated in 94. In 95, Walden went 0-10-1 and wasnt really competitive in most games. They were hopeless.
I know everyone talks about the turnaround CMC has done here and well deserving, but Coach Mac really did something close to a miracle. Granted, I have even said he benefitted from a weak North Division and getting to skip OUT to two years at a time. That being said though, there was nothing here for Mac to build on, it literally was a **** show.
I'm not trying to take away from CMC, but JP really did start to put some nice pieces in place before CMC got here. I started at ISU in 1990, watching the program go from bad to a laughing stock while I was at ISU, was pretty disheartening. I graduated in 1994, after watching 0-10-1 that previous season. The fact that Mac had us in a bowl game 6 years later is pretty miraculous, no matter who we were playing.
OK, all that being said, that list is really depressing.
Two things stand out, above what others have said. 1) Coaching 8 seasons or longer is a rarity at ISU! Only 4 people have done it and one was Jim Walden! 2.
Many wanted Bruce fired at the end of year 3, and the players called him ”jelly roll”. But he figured out how to get better after that.Will always be a big fan of what Earle Bruce did here.
Out of curio
Out of curiosity how old are you? Nothing against you but the younger generation has no idea how poss poor our facilities were back then compared to everyone else. I was an Iowa State ball boy and the locker room has rusty lockers in the old Okson building. It was like a high school in the locker room. Probably worse than some high schools. Mac finally got them to invest in facilities and I think the big 8 started to pressure teams like us to get up to speed. K State was really bad also. So our old coaches may have had horrible record but that was mostly do to us not keeping up back then. Campbell has way more to work with.