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Every QB that goes to Iowa regresses. Every single one
I truly don't think these are talented inviduals also though. At least most recent ones. The scheme is bad which causes some of the regression but petras/padilla/hill/hogan and probably throw labas in mix are bad talent evaluations.
 
I truly don't think these are talented inviduals also though. At least most recent ones. The scheme is bad which causes some of the regression but petras/padilla/hill/hogan and probably throw labas in mix are bad talent evaluations.
They all have one thing in common, they are stationary targets. Iowa hasn't had a true mobile QB since Beathard and look what they did? Then look how they did with Stanzi, Banks and Tate. Truly mind blowing that KF refuses to go after QBs that can run.

Also, how good was Stanley in retrospect? He put up pretty good numbers considering he was a statue as well.
 
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1. You have no idea whatsoever if he did or didn't gain any competitive disadvantage on the play. If even 1 Minny player let up a little bit, that affected the play... and you don't know if that happened.

2. Fleck's immediate reaction to the TD means absolutely nothing. He probably never even saw DeJean waving his arm... might have been watching the ball... who knows? So you might as well drop that stupid excuse too.

3. You think the correct call was 'trivial'? Umm.... no.


*I wonder if Minny received an apology for the missed 15 yd penalty committed by Iowa on the play that wasn't called? They should have gotten one... but since they won anyway... maybe not?

The Minnesota defenders were 100% playing the ball at that point and not the returner. It was pretty clear that MN had let up and was slow to reacting when Cooper picked up the ball.
 
I truly don't think these are talented inviduals also though. At least most recent ones. The scheme is bad which causes some of the regression but petras/padilla/hill/hogan and probably throw labas in mix are bad talent evaluations.
Buddy, im not just talking about the ones over the last 3-4 years. Look at the Brad Banks. Dude would have been an NFL draft pick had he gone anywhere else. Stanzi, Stanley, Vandenburg. All played in the system, and all regressed. Some more than others of course, but UI has a big problem developing QB's
 
I truly don't think these are talented inviduals also though. At least most recent ones. The scheme is bad which causes some of the regression but petras/padilla/hill/hogan and probably throw labas in mix are bad talent evaluations.
Did OKeefe step down before last season? He, to me, has always seemed like the only one that's been able to operate the offense differently under Ferentz. He also had far more dynamic QBs running the show with Banks, Tate, and Stanzi. Beathard was GDGD I think?
 
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They all have one thing in common, they are stationary targets. Iowa hasn't had a true mobile QB since Beathard and look what they did? Then look how they did with Stanzi, Banks and Tate. Truly mind blowing that KF refuses to go after QBs that can run.

Also, how good was Stanley in retrospect? He put up pretty good numbers considering he was a statue as well.
Stanley had a great arm. Thought he could have made it to the next level. But, he wasnt allowed to showcase it much
 
They all have one thing in common, they are stationary targets. Iowa hasn't had a true mobile QB since Beathard and look what they did? Then look how they did with Stanzi, Banks and Tate. Truly mind blowing that KF refuses to go after QBs that can run.

Also, how good was Stanley in retrospect? He put up pretty good numbers considering he was a statue as well.
I was always a Stanley fan but yes in retrospect he looks like Montana

With running quarterback in particular is there any team that it would fit better than Kirk's philosophy of not turning ball over, low mistakes playing too defense? I mean we should probably go back 1 or 2 more decades than are 90's style and adapt the option and power I
 
That wasn't what I was saying, I was saying that Fleck probably didn't even know about the invalid fair catch signal at the time of the play because of his reaction to the play. I don't think KF knew about it either honestly. I've been watching football for over 40 years and have never seen it before that I can remember.

LMAO Ferentz absolutely knows that when you wave off your players on a return that the ball is not returnable. LOL hok fans but into ole Kirk's awww shucks act hook, line, and sinker.
 
Did OKeefe step down before last season? He, to me, has always seemed like the only one that's been able to operate the offense differently under Ferentz. He also had far more dynamic QBs running the show with Banks, Tate, and Stanzi. Beathard was GDGD I think?
Believe 2 years ago maybe 3. That was when Ferentz made the worst and most indefensible decision of giving the quarterbacks coach job to none other than Brian Ferentz
 
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Buddy, im not just talking about the ones over the last 3-4 years. Look at the Brad Banks. Dude would have been an NFL draft pick had he gone anywhere else. Stanzi, Stanley, Vandenburg. All played in the system, and all regressed. Some more than others of course, but UI has a big problem developing QB's
No one else wanted Brad Banks and he was very raw. I think the coaching staff did a good job with him. Stanley and Stanzi didn't regress either. Vandenburg did after O'Keefe left and they brought in Greg Davis.
 
Stanley had a great arm. Thought he could have made it to the next level. But, he wasnt allowed to showcase it much
Great arm but seldom on target. I don't think he could have gone to many places in the P5 and been a three year starter like he was at Iowa. He was a good QB for Iowa's standards, but doubt he could have gotten on the field at better programs.
 
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Where are we finding these quarterbacks? I know a huge part is scheme/playcalling also. petras/Padilla/hill are each worse than the prior.
Stop recruiting based on height, weight and arm strength, and start looking at decision making and accuracy. Kirk's QBs look like mannequins from a big & tall store, but with less mobility.

Also, it has to be tough recruiting a QB for a run-first offense. Multiply that by 10 with the level of infamy Iowa is getting around their OC and their offensive ineptitude. My god, Ryan Nanni has a whole weekly blog about it.

C.O.R.N. Catastrophic Offensive Repair Needs
 
I don't think Fleck nor the Minnesota team reacted in a way that Cooper got a competitive advantage is what I'm saying. Doesn't matter at the end of the day as the rule was applied correctly, but it does show that the rule is not very well known if at all by most people that play and coach the game let alone the fans.

So because Iowa fans don’t understand the rules…. it’s okay to throw full bottles of water and beer cans?

ISU has had their fair share of controversy at the end of games, but I don’t remember ever seeing that kind of reaction.

But of course it was barely covered by Iowa media/journalists. Don’t want to make the fans look bad.
 
It is ******* awesome that Hawk fans have another week and a half to dwell on nothing but this. It's like God's gift to us for some of the **** that usually happens to us.

If they win out, they will absolutely say forever (literally forever) that they were robbed a playoff spot. Drink those tears until the day you die.

Sorry, my hatred for the Hawks is very intense:)
 
I truly don't think these are talented inviduals also though. At least most recent ones. The scheme is bad which causes some of the regression but petras/padilla/hill/hogan and probably throw labas in mix are bad talent evaluations.
I thought Petras broke all of Goff's records from high school and was highly recruited. I have no idea but I know I heard something like that.
 
Great arm but seldom on target. I don't think he could have gone to many places in the P5 and been a three year starter like he was at Iowa. He was a good QB for Iowa's standards, but doubt he could have gotten on the field at better programs.
I think this is the issue with the coaching of QBs into oblivion. They are taught to never turn that over. If the route is outside, send it high so only your guy can get it and if it floats it's OB. Then if it's over the middle make it low so that if your guy doesn't catch it it won't end up in the safety's hands. Basically the concepts that Iowa's defense is built to capitalize on. So none of these QBs are ever accurate.
 
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I thought Petras broke all of Goff's records from high school and was highly recruited. I have no idea but I know I heard something like that.
I've heard the same but I dont think he was heavily sought after even though I think recruiting sites evaluated him highly. I believe Iowa and Oregon State was his top 2
 

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