F*CK IOWA

Guess I should say I don't think it was a deliberate attempt to deceive Minnesota. I think he was trying to get Iowa players to stay away from the ball because it burned us earlier this year.
Deliberate or not, makes no difference. There are lots of calls on the field that were not done deliberate, but still called, frankly most penalties are just that.

Anyone that says it "has never been called" or "never gets called" or "technically a rule" are wrong. As I have said go to YT and search "invalid fair catch" You will find dozens of examples of when it has been called. The 2015 Wisky game was almost exactly the same situation, TD called back because of invalid fair catch.

And on the "technically a rule" or it being "ticky tack" Think of it the other way, if it is a rule in the book, and it was not called, how would that be fair to MN. Oh we didnt call that because it was a big play and Iowa fans would be mad...seriously think about that, not calling it as the rule is written...because why? That would be much worse and would be totally wrong, and MN would have a seriously legitimate gripe.

It was the correct call, it may have sucked for Iowa, but it was the correct call as the rule is written, You cant wave your arm, and advance a kick, period.
 
ISU fans boo. But "booing" is far less harmful than hurling objects onto the field. I'm sure your spirit squad appreciated being hit in the head with bottles and beer.
ISU fans boo, Refs, maybe, boo a called play, But we dont boo our players. And ISU fans boo very very infrequently.

Iowa is well known to boo their players. How many times did Iowa boo their qb directly last year.
 
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What's too much waving though? I mean we see punt returners wave at a grounded balls weekly and return them. Are those not enough waving or just missed calls? Granted they never or rarely go for tds. Minnesota or at least majority didn't seem to think it constituted as enough waving. The Refs initially also. I think it is subjective or minimum the rules not being applied consistently
Show me! Because you rarely ever see anyone waving, then actually catch and advance the ball. You say it happens all the time.

You see people waving then never advance the ball and just get away from it. But not waving then trying to catch and advance. I think Iowa fans confuse the two.

ANY WAVING is too much in the rule. And there is a difference in the way people pump their arms to run than side to side waving. Iowa fans are just trying to make excuses.
 
Short of winning that call was the best thing that could've happened for KF, because it gives him cover and allows him to distract everyone by talking about one call instead of about the fact that we had 125 total yards of offense, 11 yards of rushing, and 12 total yards of offense in the second half... against a very mediocre defense.

That's the real story with Saturday's loss.
 
I agree with you, just tough to stomach and ISU fans would be crying all over the internet like Iowa fans are if it happened to them in this fashion as well. Enjoy the tears.
First time getting screwed, eh?
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Guess you get to hear the same thing we always hear: don't play like **** before then, and that single play won't matter.
 
North Carolina game from past weekend is 1
From what I have seen you are right. There is 1 example. But in that example he advanced it about 2 yards, not really much of a change whether it was dead on catch vs when downed.

Honestly I am pretty sure you will find there are a lot of instances where it was called right, and not too many called wrong. I mean seriously do a YT search for "invalid fair catch" Besides all the crying Hok fans you will see a lot of examples.
 
That's fair just shows inconsistency of rule is what it proves. When it's inconsistent and rules are applied loosely that's when any fan base gets upset even when rules correct.
You can be mad when it is called incorrect, so Virginia can be mad, because it was called incorrect. But in that it did not matter much because the returner barely advanced the ball. You cant be mad when it is called correct, like at Iowa.
 
So apparently.. Hok fans today are hanging their hat on, Kirk had a meeting with the NCAA and B1G for 2 HOURS yesterday, and supposedly they agree that it was a bad call, they wish it wasnt called, and wish the rule was different, and they agree Iowa should have won, should be mad, and should get the national championship given to them because of it.

Pretty sure, they are reading way way way more into this supposed meeting than what was actually said. But whatever fuels their delusions, so be it.
 

So just we are all clear, the Big 10 acknowledges the invalid fair catch was the correct call and Iowa should had been called for a penalty for leaping. Yep... Iowa was the ones that were "screwed" :)

We need one more thing on this play to go against Iowa. That would be the ultimate trifecta
 
From what I have seen you are right. There is 1 example. But in that example he advanced it about 2 yards, not really much of a change whether it was dead on catch vs when downed.

Honestly I am pretty sure you will find there are a lot of instances where it was called right, and not too many called wrong. I mean seriously do a YT search for "invalid fair catch" Besides all the crying Hok fans you will see a lot of examples.

I haven't watched the example in question (but I'll post anyway at the chance of being a fool). The player is apparently allowed two steps. I assume this is so that if you catch the ball on the run you aren't expected to stop like you hit a brick wall. Not sure if the two steps rule would apply to the example cited.

ARTICLE 2. No Team B player shall carry a caught or recovered ball more than two steps in any direction after any Team B player gives a valid or invalid fair catch signal (A.R. 6-5-2-I-III).
 

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