Whatever you say, Coach!
F*CK IOWA
- Thread starter FallOf81
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Be sure to tell us when you have passed you coaching classes and have been hired for you first job.
That's absolutely incorrect, the part about it being a dead ball after it's kicked.
ARTICLE 1. A live ball is a ball in play. A pass, kick or fumble that has not yet touched the ground is a live ball in flight.
BUT, you're completely correct concerning the return player not being allowed to in any way be deceptive about their intentions.
Almost every call in football is a judgement call - Holding, PI, FG that goes right over the goal post, targeting, etc., etc.
Wave your hand above your head = valid fair catch, cant advance the ball
Wave your hand in any other manner than above your head = INvalid fair catch and still can't advance the ball.
Iowa did #2 above and then tried to advance the ball.
The only thing that would have made that play better is if someone blew up (and I mean absolutely annihilated him) the Iowa returner after he tried to run with the ball.
No kidding they have to make that judgement, but with the way the rule is written now they know if they see a hand waiving in any way they let up and won't obliterate the returner. If you had it your way they see a hand waiving and they can't tell if it's above or below the head what are they supposed to do? If I'm their coach I tell them to blow him up if you're not sure because worst case it's a 15 yard penalty, where as if you pull up and the hand wasn't above the head it could be a touchdown return.
Apparently the Big 10 will drop the hammer on Iowa on Wednesday. Drunk Tavern Hoks throwing bottles at the visitors bench is just outrageous. But they will probably complain about getting fined, because somehow it’s their right, they paid for the ticket. Pathetic.
It appears this "bad" call by the refs was even more tramatic for the hok fan base than the Stanford Band incident.
I had no idea the Gazette had 3 original articles per day, total, much less just sports.
Last time i picked one up it was mostly syndicated national stuff picked off the wire.
And any kind of a wave tells them to slow/stop which is easier than trying to figure out if it's above a certain location on the body.
Otherwise a coach could throw a ringer in there to destroy a star player and have them play the 'I thought it was below the head' card.
SCORE MORE THAN 1O POINTS. PUT UP MORE THAN 125 YARDS IN A GAME. And then you can complain. You still only had to move the ball 25 yards to kick a winning field goal! Iowa has been on the opposite side of 95 percent of these calls that swing games for most of Kirks career. Luckiest, most overrated, Fake ID football program in America has one call that goes against them and the world is ending.
They could have had 500 yards and 42 points, that play still should get called back.
See Fresno State before the "halo" rule was implemented. They'd send guys down to blow up the returner before the ball even got to him.
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No it isn't a live ball. Not until it's touched by the return team. Here's how you can tell. During a punt, if the receiving team doesn't call for a fair catch and doesn't make an attempt to field the ball, can the kicking team take possession?
Nope. They can only down it, ergo it's a dead ball. On a kickoff the kicking team can take possession of the ball (provided it travels more than 10 yards) without the receiving team having touched it. That's a live ball. A punt is not.
Kick and Punt are 2 different things in football rules.
A punt is live. That's why the rules about illegal touching and recovery by the kicking team use the phrase "the ball becomes dead."